Do you think the use of cellular phones while driving should be illegal?

[nadine]

:t Hi:Oh yeah
cheers de nadine.

[Billforce]

If held in the hand, YES! But not if you use a hands free remote system such as mine. Miniature ear phone and mike that doesn't interfere with your driving.

[Strawbs]

In this day and age it's nigh on impossible for some to do their jobs without using one! Me included ...I drive about a thousand miles a week and wouldn't be able to take or make calls if there was a total ban. I would need a secretary back at the office (£££).

I think our government has it about right, in that you can only use one hands free!

I use one of these

http://www.infosync.no/news/2003/12/02/gfx/plantronics_m3000_01.jpgPlantronics M3000 (http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/n/4367.html)

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[mireland]

Originally posted by nadine
:t Hi:Oh yeah
cheers de nadine.


YES! People who talk on the phone while driving, should be shot in the crotch, skinned alive and have a Michael Jackson Enema!!!!:mad:

[FrnchDp]

One of my biggest pet peeves!! :mad:

I actually saw a guy the other day driving with TWO cell phones.. One btw shoulder and head (presumably talking on it) and dialing on the other..

I should've gotten in front and slammed my brakes..


some ppl :rolleyes:

[FrnchDp]

ps.. we really need to teach nadine how to use the poll function!!

:p

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[j.m@talk]

post a poll on how long it will take for him/her/it/them to learn :rolleyes:

[challenger]

Only if your female.

[zybch]

There was a study done a few months ago that seemed to indicate that even a handsfree rather than using a handset still leads to a huge number of accidents.
I'll try to find the source and post it here.

Now Billforce will call me a liberal for this but:
If the study is accurate, even driving with a handsfree should not be allowed (although telling people what to do is more a conservative thing).

The only way to not have an accident is to pull over and stop the car if you have to talk. Its very hard to run your car into something/someone if its parked.

[JCB]

YES

[sm8000]

Originally posted by FrnchDp
ps.. we really need to teach nadine how to use the poll function!!

:p

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Already done: http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=157925

As for this issue, I have mixed feelings....I think handsfree is the way to go, but I also feel most people can't and therefore shouldn't be allowed to drive and phone-talk at the same time. Perhaps some kind of permit received after passing a test or assessment is in order? I dunno, just throwing ideas around....

[Billforce]

Originally posted by zybch
There was a study done a few months ago that seemed to indicate that even a handsfree rather than using a handset still leads to a huge number of accidents.
I'll try to find the source and post it here.

Now Billforce will call me a liberal for this but:
If the study is accurate, even driving with a handsfree should not be allowed (although telling people what to do is more a conservative thing).

The only way to not have an accident is to pull over and stop the car if you have to talk. Its very hard to run your car into something/someone if its parked.

If your going to quote an authority, please post it. Otherwise it's simply rhetoric.

[zybch]

Originally posted by Billforce
If your going to quote an authority, please post it. Otherwise it's simply rhetoric.

Hi there troll. If you'd actually read what I wrote you'd have seen that I said I'd post the source when I could find it.

[zybch]

The specific one from a few months ago I haven't been able to find yet, but here are some from a little while longer back.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/01/030129080944.htm


http://www.nsc.org/library/shelf/inincell.htm

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/US/cybershake030620.html

[Billforce]

Originally posted by zybch
Hi there troll. If you'd actually read what I wrote you'd have seen that I said I'd post the source when I could find it.

O.K. flannel mouth....you seem to be an expert at quoting unknown sources. Kinda like a "legend in your own mind".

Regardless of the subject, be it politics or dog ****, you seem to have a compulsion to try to discredit anything I say. I can see jealousy manifesting itself all over the place. Perhaps if you would apply yourself and GET A JOB maybe you wouldn't be so disgruntled.

[zybch]

Then there is this one:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1998/06/980618032130.htm

Which confirms just what we all (men) knew all along.

[zybch]

And also this:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/09/020916063315.htm

So, would you ban pregnant women from driving a car?

[j.m@talk]

GIRLS PLAY NICELY Jeepers :p

[JCB]

Originally posted by zybch


So, would you ban pregnant women from driving a car?

I don't know why we ever gave them the right to vote. :cool:

[zybch]

Originally posted by Billforce
O.K. flannel mouth....you seem to be an expert at quoting unknown sources. Kinda like a "legend in your own mind".

Regardless of the subject, be it politics or dog ****, you seem to have a compulsion to try to discredit anything I say. I can see jealousy manifesting itself all over the place. Perhaps if you would apply yourself and GET A JOB maybe you wouldn't be so disgruntled.

Not at all. When sexuality, politics, religion and abortions are left out of it I tend to agree with you more often than not.
My job is moderatley rewarding and pays okay.

[Billforce]

Obviously this "Intellectual Tarzan" doesn't even own a cell phone ( I have 4) . If I am alone on the highway without a car in sight and I use my handsfree telephone, I am presently a hazzard to no one save myself....and that is my peronal business.

[mireland]

Originally posted by JCB
I don't know why we ever gave them the right to vote. :cool:

I hope that was said in jest..:mad:



hard to tell in these mean spirited thread...:rolleyes:

[zybch]

I have 3.

[zybch]

Any more would just be an extravagance.

[j.m@talk]

Originally posted by Billforce
I am presently a hazzard to no one


Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..!........ No Jm Noooooooooooo ;)

[zybch]

Originally posted by j.m@talk
Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..!........ No Jm Noooooooooooo ;)

Perhaps we could get some numbers and call him when hes driving :p

[mireland]

I'm not very good at telling the future, however I DO forsee another thread or two being locked...http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/konfetti.gif

[FrnchDp]

Originally posted by Billforce
If I am alone on the highway without a car in sight and I use my handsfree telephone, I am presently a hazzard to no one save myself....and that is my peronal business.

that said, if I'm alone on a highway without a car in sight shouldn't I then be allowed to get stoned, drunk and not wear a seatbelt? it would be my personal business then too, right?

this "personal business" theory could be applied to many different circumstances if you think about it..


Not a jab at you BillForce.. I actually agree with that! :D

[FrnchDp]

Originally posted by Billforce
....you seem to be an expert at quoting unknown sources. Kinda like a "legend in your own mind".


are we talking about the Bible here?? just curious! ;)



ps.. IMO, pot is a lot less dangerous than alcohol.. that being said, haven't touched the stuff for year, pot that is!

:r

[FrnchDp]

Originally posted by j.m@talk
GIRLS PLAY NICELY Jeepers :p

I resent that as I am a Jeep owner!!


:D

[bonz_dragon]

Yes!

I had a driver blow past me on I94 between Chicago and Milwaukee with a cell in his ear and a book or manual in his hand on the wheel. I was doing 70mph in the center lane and he flew past like is was standing still.
So, with all that activity in the car, talking, reading, steering"?", speeding, what I'd like to know is who was driving!

[Bovon]

When I see something like this being asked concerning using a telephone and driving etc., it reminds me that a few can do such as that and still monitor traffic..but the majority cannot.

When asked about this on CNN one day in the recent past.. some CNN reporter had overheard some cop ask if we would permit a surgeon to cut on us while chatting away on a telephone about some upcoming social event.

Not I...

[omendata]

"I had a driver blow past me......."

Didnt GILLIAN TAYLFORTH have that problem too?

Just as dangerous as driving listenin to yer phone methinks?

[j.m@talk]

Originally posted by omendata
Didnt GILLIAN TAYLFORTH have that problem too?

Caff was framed :mad: She was parked anyways.......... :p

Range Rover tho wannit ?:t

[omendata]

Sorry didnt phone

Boss got me on a job#!

Thats on "A" job!

Pre-empting you there!
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[ukulele]

It could be hazardous to the cell phone for sure. I saw one lady drop one out the window one day and a car coming in the other direction smashed it to pieces. :p

The cell phone stuff is driving me nuts. I went to pay my car tax last month and some woman in line in front of me had three of them and was answering one as fast as she could hang up another one. One of them was a Motorola with a walkie talkie feature. The whole place could hear both sides of the conversation and they were discussing someones bladder infection!!! She carried on like it was just another normal day at the office. :rolleyes:

[Bovon]

Thats what my mama called 'puttin' on airs'...in otherwords, she was making out like she was really important...

was she blonde?

[zybch]

Just plain stupid. People like that really annoy me, acting a though they were born with a silver spoon stuck up their ...

[ukulele]

She was probably a receptionist in a doctors office, but still the wait at the DMV here is rarely more then 5 or ten minutes. You have to wonder if she is chained to those phones every second of her day. Or it could be that she cannot use the phone while she is working so she must keep the world informed of her every dilemma any chance she can get.

"Honey, I'm calling to tell you I made it safely across the street and will pay my road tax now. I'll call you when I get ready to cross the street again and let you know how dangerous it looks."

Other hand.

" Hi Gertrude. I'll call you when I get to the store later and let you know what the best price is on hemorrhoid suppositories."

Hanging around her neck.

"Yes, Mother. No I don't have a hemorriod, that was Gertrude, you remember the lady I gave my number to during the opera last month. She's a dear, calls me every day now cause she can't get out on account of she's too big now to get through the door. She has a bladder infection now and needs advice on the proper color of her..............Blah, Blah,Blah".

[ukulele]

Oh, here's another good one on cell phones.

I'm at the beach eating lunch in my truck, and watching this family unload for a picnic. They haul all the junk they could carry in their SUV half a block away to the tables. The kids race off to the water and suddenly wifey ( a typical fat American tourist type) comes racing back to the SUV huffing and puffing. She reaches in the car and desperately grabs for her cell phone. Suddenly dad waves frantically and yells "Mine too! Mine too!". Now she is in the back seat rumaging around. Finally she finds it, another cell phone. Life is good again. :rolleyes:

[j.m@talk]

Originally posted by ukulele
( a typical fat American tourist type)



Ohh Lardy ;)

[zybch]

Mobile phones are a bit like emails.
Just because you can have an email delivered seconds after you sent it, DOESN'T mean that the person who received it is obligated to reply instantaneously.

Cell phones are the same. I have a few but its not often that I'll carry them around with me or even have them turned on if I want to have some time to myself.
So many people are exactly the opposite. They carry around spare batteries, leave them on at night when they are sleeping and (worst of all) keep the bloody things turned on when they go to the movies.

I'm so sick of jerks' phones going off when I'm trying to watch a film I paid good money to see, that I now make it my business to actually yell at them to turn 'your f***ing phone off'.
I often get other annoyed people cheering and clapping for me when I do this; it makes the day worthwhile.
Most people are just too wimpy to do it themselves.

[j.m@talk]

Jebers He enjoys "Getting the Clap" :D

[mireland]

people who talk on the phone while driving should have their brains beaten out of their skull, ground up and fed to farm animals....




Have a nice day..:D

[werz]

zybch, I saw the same report on the news a couple of months back, was it commisioned by the NRMA?
but anyway it definately said that talking on a hands free was as distracting as a mobile without that attachment. So stopping to use a cell phoneis the safest. It would be to hard for traffic cops to catch someone using a hands free device in the car thats why its not yet a fineable offence it would be otherwise for revenue raisng purposes.

[bonz_dragon]

Well let's see, my motherboard is now 3-4 generations old, I still use VCRs, still listen to vynl LPs, just got a DVD player, so I quess I'm still a few years away from "having" to buy a cell phone.
I can already hear it going off as I'm calmly sitting in my kayak in the middle of the lake. Can you say Eskimo Roll!

[zybch]

They tend to stick in my teeth. I prefer pork rolls.

[bonz_dragon]

Yeah but they get soggy in the water and rancid in the sun!

[zybch]

Originally posted by werz
zybch, I saw the same report on the news a couple of months back, was it commisioned by the NRMA?
but anyway it definately said that talking on a hands free was as distracting as a mobile without that attachment. So stopping to use a cell phoneis the safest. It would be to hard for traffic cops to catch someone using a hands free device in the car thats why its not yet a fineable offence it would be otherwise for revenue raisng purposes.

That sounds like the one I was thinking about.
Of course the NRMA would have no meaning outside Aust, I mean us Aussies are just the fastest addopters of ANY new technology, what do we know.

[Strawbs]

Originally posted by zybch
..I mean us Aussies are just the fastest addopters of ANY new technology, what do we know. Yeah! how's that "million bullet per second" gun coming along? :x

[Billforce]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by werz
[B]zybch, I saw the same report on the news a couple of months back, was it commisioned by the NRMA?

If we were to use your take on hand free cell phones then we would have to eliminate all the radio's out of police and other emergency vehicles, they are in fact more hazzardous because they require the use of one hand on the handset.:p

[ukulele]

The cops can have them implanted in their skull. They are mostly robots anyway by the time they get out of training.

[crapyking]

where were we 5 yrs ago? without those god **** cell phones.it is a law in ny - should be too!:mad:

[zybch]

Originally posted by Billforce
[QUOTE]Originally posted by werz
[B]zybch, I saw the same report on the news a couple of months back, was it commisioned by the NRMA?

If we were to use your take on hand free cell phones then we would have to eliminate all the radio's out of police and other emergency vehicles, they are in fact more hazzardous because they require the use of one hand on the handset.:p

A cop talking on his radio is NOTHING like some stupid bimbo chatting away about her latest boyfriend etc.

You very rarely hear a cop chatting to the guy back at the station about where they will go to dinner that night or if Taylor is gonan leave Steve in their favourite soap opera.

Also, the chatter back and forth is all basically scripted:

Cop - chasing a speeder on **** street (or whatever)
Station - you need assistance?
Cop - yeah, does my **** look big?

Most partol cars here have 2 cops in them. One to do the driving and the other to use the radio and set up bribes.

The thing is, Bill, that you just can't stand being wrong. You berated me for not providing sources after I said I'd list them when I could. After I did you are now basically saying that the statistics from more than one study are wrong, aparently to justify your own use of a cell phone while driving.

Finally its not 'my take'.
My 'take' is that you can do talk to whomever you want, so long as it doesn't endanger me or other people (that includes rescue personel who may one day have to scrape your broken body out of a burning wreck).

The studies show without doubt that talking on a cell phone, even with hands free, IS dangerous.

However they aren't quite as distracting as smoking while driving.

[Billforce]

Nope! I only talk business on my cell phones....the cops are arranging meetings at the local donut shops.

[zybch]

Cops using their radios to arrange meetings at doughnut shops probably doesn't happen.

However, its scary to think how its so easy to believe that they might.

[Billforce]

You're confusing Hands Free with ¨hansfree¨in Aussie land.

I posted a hasfree from downunder for your benefit.

[j.m@talk]

Originally posted by zybch
Cops using their radios to arrange meetings at doughnut shops probably doesn't happen.

What planet do you live on? :rolleyes:

[FrnchDp]

If people were trained to drive like cops, I might not have such a big problem with idiots and there hand held phones..

besides, how long can it take to tell your buddies to head to the donut shop.. it's prolly a code like 10-4:

"Hey Larry.. 10-12!"
"10-4 Bob"

and then they meet 5 minutes later at the donut shop.. Take sthat much time to change the freakin radio channel :D


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[FrnchDp]

Originally posted by j.m@talk
What planet do you live on? :rolleyes:

That should prolly be a whole other thread!!

:p

[ukulele]

Cops probably use their radios to check the whereabouts of the other cops when they feel like a rebel. :rolleyes:

[whitebeard21]

Anyone that uses a cell phone while driving should have preparation h rubbed all over their bodies so they will disappear.
I used a mobole phone for years before cells and I always pulled over to use it. I still have a cell but do not use it while driving.
Last monday I had to slow from 70 mph on a 2 lane hwy to less than 20 to avoid a headon colision with an idiot talking on a cell phone.

[omendata]

You should have got out and kicked his ***!

That really p1sses me off!
:eek: