AMD, Microsoft Boost Security

[sm8000]

Palladium

[Bluehail]

Sounds spooky, I don't like it.

[rraehal]

We knew it was in the works.

Too bad it is beggining to happen so soon.

This is only the first step IMO.

[zybch]

One small step for TC, one giant leap (backwards) for PC users who want to keep their privacy!

Linux still has a long way to go, but its looking more and more attractive so long as TC is kept away from it.

[sm8000]

Maybe we're wrong???

http://www.techimo.com/newsapp/i10022.html

[Vampiel]

Im still in the dark here what is TC and why does it make your computer less private. I remember the serial numbers that Intel put on there CPU's a while back. (tried to)

[sm8000]

TC - Trusted Computing, from TCPA (Trusted Computing Platform Alliance)

Also called Palladium. Google for either of those, or use the search function here, there've been some threads on it.

[Vampiel]

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html

I might have to go Intel :D

[sm8000]

No, Intel's in the alliance. I might have to go Mac.

[zybch]

Apple WILL go TC.
You think they'd risk their biggest software title and only reason many people buy mac, MS Office, when it goes TC? Not a chance!

[sm8000]

Hmmm.... good point. I may have to go Linux after all, provided I don't get a board with one of those new 'things' (name escapes me) instead of a BIOS, which could potentially restrict what OS you choose to install.

[Bluehail]

Originally posted by zybch
Apple WILL go TC.
You think they'd risk their biggest software title and only reason many people buy mac, MS Office, when it goes TC? Not a chance!

Apple can go with StarOffice or whatnot. And I think people buy apple right now because it's different.

What really pains me is Sun Micro is on the list of traitors! No suprise TI is with them too as their chip fabricator.

[sm8000]

I'm glad IBM isn't on the list, but some of their hardware is....

[Bluehail]

Promoters

AMD
Hewlett-Packard
IBM
Intel Corporation
Microsoft
Sony Corporation
Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Contributors

Agere Systems
ARM
ATI Technologies Inc.
Atmel
AuthenTec, Inc.
Broadcom Corporation
Comodo
Fujitsu Limited
Fujitsu Siemens Computers
Gemplus
Infineon
Legend Limited Group
Motorola Inc.
National Semiconductor
nCipher
Nokia
NTRU Cryptosystems, Inc.
NVIDIA
Philips
Phoenix
Rainbow Technologies, Inc.
Renesas Technology Corp.
RSA Security, Inc.
Samsung Electronics Co.
SCM Microsystems, Inc.
Seagate Technology
Shang Hai Wellhope Information
Silicon Storage Technology, Inc.
Standard Microsystems Corporation
STMicroelectronics
Texas Instruments
Utimaco Safeware AG
VeriSign, Inc.
VIA Technologies, Inc.
Wave Systems

Adopters

Ali Corporation
American Megatrends, Inc.
Gateway
Industrial Technology Research Institute
M-Systems Flash Disk Pioneers
OSA Technologies
Silicon Integrated Systems Corp.
Softex, Inc.
Toshiba Corporation
Winbond Electronics Corporation

[zybch]

Face it guys. If we want any privacy we'd better start learning how to use a pencil again.

[Avor]

I feel a rebellion in the computing industry by the user side coming on :eek:

No matter what they do, people ("hackers") will find ways around it and more and more people won't care about the solutions or morality of them as long as it frees them from their little electronic prison.

[OlegB]

Not only will will people find ways around it, but it'll be easy. Im sure the vendors (intel) will play both sides by making it so. They'll appease the disney the riaa and mpaa idiots by sticking a TC sticker next to the HT one while at the same time making sure not to exclude the "power user" who respects privacy and knows a thing or two about whats in that box they call a computer.

[elroy]

As I've been saying for a while now, the day will come when you will need 2 pc's. One for online and one that is NEVER connected to the web. Just so that you can maintain some of your privacy. :(

[beast16t]

I use 2 PCs like that now :cool:

The last one I built was only connected to the net when doing updates of software and drivers, now it doesn't even have a phone line near it let alone connected to it :D

If I want to get anything onto it I use an ethernet connection to my laptop so It can be virus scanned too.

If you start off by thinking the worst and not trusting people then you can only be nicely surprised, not disapointed when you learn more about them ;)

[Strawbs]

Sceptics of the world unite! :D

[zybch]

Sceptiscism is the way everyone is beginning to think these days, no matter if its about politics, religion or some dastardly plot to 'make computing safer'.

TC will hopefully be a complete balls up. Just take a look at all the Ma and Pa computer users out there who have copied disks for their kids they got from family members, or who still use versions of Office dating back to office 97.
If everyone started from scratch, got a new PC, bought all new software TC might work, but thats never going to happen.

TC introduction will possibly be the event that finally gets linux off the ground with the general public.