Bulding a Shelf

[Cyan]

I'm building a sort of complicated shelf, I was just wondering if there were any free type programs to help me figgure this out. (that assist with design and measurment)

Thanks a bunch :t

[FrnchDp]

I use paper and pencil.. along with a ruler and my brain


:D

[Cyan]

I did that too, but a program on the computer can do it better.

:r

thanks for the non-help :-@

[FrnchDp]

Originally posted by Cyan
..thanks for the non-help :-@

Welcome to Community Forum!! Home of the non-helping crew.

If you give out any useful info in here, you will be banned!! :p


;)

[zybch]

Just use a pencil and paper man!
All the PC programss I've used for similar things just suck. First you have the learn how to use them, then you can do some designing.
In the same time you could have designed and actually built the shelf if you use the low-tech approach.

[Picard]

Visio, but it's a bit overkill for a shelf, and expensive. I'd just use a pencil and paper, except that I have visio already. It works well. Any pre M$ Version is what I would recommend, particularly Visio tech 5.0C. Try Ebay

[the_mac]

hey guys, do you know of any programs to help me design a pb&j sandwich, i've spent hours and i can't find any good ones. i need this quick. thanks ahead.

[ukulele]

Originally posted by Cyan
I'm building a sort of complicated shelf, I was just wondering if there were any free type programs to help me figgure this out. (that assist with design and measurment)

Thanks a bunch :t

Building a shelf or anything else by hand does not work in practice if you use a computer to calculate the dimensions. You will need to learn how to use a tape measure, square and saw. Now if you want a machine do do the work you need CNC (computer numerical control) tools and the materials will all have to be dimensioned to exact dimensions, which you won't find at your local Ace Hardware (if you can find anything you want in the first place at Ace Hardware). Engineers design things with CAD programs but builders never use the exact dimensions because it is an imperfect world.

[ukulele]

Originally posted by the_mac
hey guys, do you know of any programs to help me design a pb&j sandwich, i've spent hours and i can't find any good ones. i need this quick. thanks ahead.

Julia Childs put out a cookbook which might help if you are so mentally impaired. :p

[FrnchDp]

I use AutoCAD everyday and even I would choose pencil and paper for any sort of carpentry I planned to do myself!

:t

[the_mac]

Originally posted by ukulele
Julia Childs put out a cookbook which might help if you are so mentally impaired. :p

well i still haven't found a good one yet. none of them have support for chunky pb. i guess i'll just wing it. although i don't think i'm ready for such a task.

[djclarky]

Yeah - a CNC Mill would probably cut your shelf brilliantly, but before you use that, you will need a CMM (co-ordinate measuring machine) to probe the dimensions of your wall, to make sure you can tell the CNC Mill to cut it to the perfect dimention, down to the nearest half a thou.

That's ok, but the CNC Mill, and the CMM will cost you a few quid, plus the fact - to run a CMM, you will need a precision granite bed installed in whatever room you need to measure up, and you must also have the room temperature controlled to avoid heat expansion/contraction.

Hope this is of some help to you.......

:t

[mireland]

Originally posted by the_mac
hey guys, do you know of any programs to help me design a pb&j sandwich, i've spent hours and i can't find any good ones. i need this quick. thanks ahead.

http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/lame.gif


lol

[G Ray88]

Cyan, if you don't own a table saw or a good power saw and use them once in a while, it might be good idea to buy a pre-built one, one of those you can finish yourself.
If not check out your local hardware store, they should have some books that should help you. Good Luck
:t

[Cyan]

http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/out.gif

And I asked... such a simple question...

http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/drv.gif

[Happy Joe]

Two boards + four bricks = shelf
For a taller shelf use concrete block.
For a bookcase add more layers.
Enjoy!

[ukulele]

http://www.bry-backmanor.org/picturerecipe11.html

Enjoy mac. :p

[ukulele]

Originally posted by Cyan
http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/out.gif

And I asked... such a simple question...

http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/drv.gif

There are no simple questions or simple answers here. :rolleyes:

[j.m@talk]

Two gallows brackets & a plank of wood......... BOSH done.

Taken from Uke's book of fine carpentry :D

[ukulele]

Originally posted by j.m@talk
Two gallows brackets & a plank of wood......... BOSH done.

Taken from Uke's book of fine carpentry :D

Actually my shop is the concrete block and plank style. :) I can't afford my own work. :(

[G Ray88]

Try going to www.ubuild.com
Good Luck:t

[ginger]

try sleeping with a chippy, it works for me!!! ;)

[j.m@talk]

Originally posted by ginger
try sleeping with a chippy, it works for me!!! ;)

Fell asleep in KFC once...... Does that count ? :cool:

[mireland]

Originally posted by j.m@talk
Fell asleep in KFC once...... Does that count ? :cool:

:D

[Billforce]

Originally posted by j.m@talk
Fell asleep in KFC once...... Does that count ? :cool:

"One TOKE over the line sweet Jesus, one TOKE over the line"!:p

[ginger]

:D ;) :)

[omendata]

Ive heard JM and Mireland make a good sandwich!


sick sick sick!!!!
:x

[j.m@talk]

As the China man said as water was rising up his leg



"Oh Borrocks" ;)

[omendata]

Better watch out - we're not allowed to crack chinky jokes in the UK now!

Its all part of Blairs masterplan to conquer the universe!

The worlds gone completely mad - Glad Ive got sysopt to keep me totally insane!
:confused:

[mireland]

Originally posted by omendata
Ive heard JM and Mireland make a good sandwich!


sick sick sick!!!!
:x


my regards to that comment:http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/boom.gif

[j.m@talk]

Originally posted by omendata
Better watch out - we're not allowed to crack chinky jokes in the UK now!

Its all part of Blairs masterplan to conquer the universe!

The worlds gone completely mad - Glad Ive got sysopt to keep me totally insane!
:confused:

Too "Flucky Right" ;)

[mireland]

Originally posted by j.m@talk
Too "Flucky Right" ;)

Bon of a Sitch...:rolleyes: