Geforce 4600 Ti or Geforce FX 5200

[VelcroCondom]

Hello sysopt, :t
I just bought a 5200 fx on a whim. Wasn't planning on it, but I thought hey, 75$ is fine by me...I'll try it out.
So now after testing it out, I do like it...(benchmarks were not done).

So is it safe to say that the GeForce FX 5200(PNY) will outwork/perform the Geforce4 Ti 4600(VisionTek)?
I believe both are 128DDR.

[bushmaster]

Ti4600

[mobo57]

The TI blows the 5200 out of the water. I had a TI4200 and "upgraded" to the 5200. THe 5200 performed so badly, I put the TI back in until I purchased my 9800 pro. Only in certain limited circumstances does the 5200 beat the TI.

[Yoshi]

Yup a Ti, bit look into a 9600NP

[Bigjakkstaffa]

TI4600 by a mile, the FX5200 lags behind even the ti4200 in many games/apps.

--Jakk:t

[Ammok]

do want a toyota or a mini? 4600 by a long, long way.

[Rugor]

It's safe to say the FX5200 will be thoroughly trashed by the Ti4600. It's a lot slower.

[iceblue]

The Ti 4600 will outperform it. You're comparing a performance vs entry-level card though. :t

[scottluebke2003]

Iceblue is right. Those 2 cards don't compete at all. The FX5200 is the DX9 entry level card and the Ti4600 is the DX8 top of the line card.

[bob05]

Well, you get what you pay for. That said, the 5200 isn't a totally bad card. I have one and I like it. Just depends on what you are trying to use with it. But generally speaking the Ti4600 is a better card.

[chriswhitelaw]

I agree with Bob05 the 5200 card is good for what you wanna do and if you have the system it does well. The TI4600 is a better card though by all means, never thought I'd say it.

[Rugor]

Depending on your usage, an FX5200 can meet your needs. However, if you have a Ti4600 it is a significant downgrade.

[cuelebre]

Originally posted by scottluebke2003
Iceblue is right. Those 2 cards don't compete at all. The FX5200 is the DX9 entry level card and the Ti4600 is the DX8 top of the line card.

True very true.
In a perfect Nvidia/ ATI world any "new" or " next " entry level should out-perform the previous generation, but they don't.:(

[bob05]

Originally posted by cuelebre
True very true.
In a perfect Nvidia/ ATI world any "new" or " next " entry level should out-perform the previous generation, but they don't.:(

I think the rule of thumb is for the budget card to preform like the med or best card for 2 generations ago (right now thats a 5200 performing like a Geforce 3 Ti 200-500, which I think it about does). :t

[Rugor]

Well in Nvidia's case this was deliberate in the lower models. The FX5200 was designed to replace the Gf4MX and have broadly similar performance but with additional feature support. The FX5600U was aimed at similar performance to the Ti4200 but with better features.

In both cases Nvidia's goal was a card with similar frame rates, but better IQ features with similar frame rates and less of a performance hit from AA and AF.

Before the Church of the 5200 gets on to me for this, the FX5200 does fall in roughly the same spot in Nvidia's lineup as the Gf4MX did-- with the new MX4000 taking over from the last remaining Gf2MX's.

It's not that it was designed as a bad card, but entry level cards of one generation are never designed to outrun the top performers of the previous generation. At most they'll normally bring mainstream performance to the budget sector. It normally takes at least two or three generations to do that.

[cuelebre]

OH came on!
Who needs something that is "Not new or improve" besides Ketchup! :)

[Ammok]

When they bring out a new range of cards, the cheapest model has to beat the previous best, otherwise you end up with really naffed off people, buy a 5200 and find for the same price they could have had a card with twice the performance.

Lots of disillusioned peeps out there.

[Rugor]

All the cheapest has to do is beat the previous card at the same price range. Not the top of the line card that is still about twice the price.

[Ammok]

True, but tell that to those who think they got a top of the line range, or the manufacturers who boast so well the nature of the "new" product that they omit to mention that it is a bargain basement of the line. I get it all the time," I just bought XXX and my old card was better, should I upgrade my pc?".

"No you just swallowed a huge slice of marketing hype, go plug your old card back in.":p

[Rugor]

That's a given--- buy a new PC with a low-end card and swap it out for your real one.

[RamonGTP]

This is where the phrase "you get what you pay for" seems to fit well.