DirectX 9 made my game look jacked.

[aanyone]

I installed DirectX 9.0b on my PC tonite, while I was trying to optimize MoH:AA. It seemed to be more stuttery, so I put in a game that is I know runs smooth, AvP2, and now the polygons are all over the place... it's a very visable and wild distortion. And naturally the cinematics are stuttering.

My system is modest, at best. :(
AMD K6-2 533MHz
512Mb SDRAM
nVidia GeForce2 MX 32Mb PCI

I recently installed Win2k Pro, and because of that, recently installed the latest drivers for my vidcard. Should I go back to DirX 8? Or is there a way to fix this strange problem?

[Someone Stupid]

I'd revert back to D8 since that is more than you need with your card and what the vast majority of games require though a few are starting to need D9. They have uninstallers for D9 on the net, some work better than others. You could run dx inbuilt diagnostics (generally it passes everything, but if something is horribly wrong it'll fail) and see if it's passing everything on it's own, if it isn't then you definantly need to rollback or disable whatever is failing, otherwise you might be able to go fishing and find the problem which is causing a conflict. I can't think of any definants to tell you right now, maybe someone else will.

[bob05]

I have your exact same video card and DX 9.0 worked just fine for me with the Det. 45's (http://www.nvidia.com/object/pc_winxp-2k_45.33.html). Also, was the Win2k installation after a format?

[aanyone]

Originally posted by bob05
I have your exact same video card and DX 9.0 worked just fine for me with the Det. 45's (http://www.nvidia.com/object/pc_winxp-2k_45.33.html). Also, was the Win2k installation after a format?

yeah... my drive died a while back, so I installed a new OS fresh after formating the HD. So I had to start from scratch.

Maybe there's a setting or something in AvP2? I guess I could contact the video card tech support...

I just installed web cam software that required DX9, and it runs fine... so it has to be game issues with it... eh, I could life with out AvP2 if that's what it comes down too.

Hey, bob05, did you have to change any setting on your vidcard do get dx9 to run right?

[bob05]

Originally posted by aanyone
Hey, bob05, did you have to change any setting on your vidcard do get dx9 to run right?

Nope, didn't change anything. Although I kept the slider in the driver properties on 'Best Performance' since anything else might be too slow. :t

[24747comper]

u might wana think about spending some money for a better card also, 50-100 can get you one that will run stuff.

[Someone Stupid]

You said it died and you reformatted it. Did you run scandisk / chkdsk on it afterwards? What manufacturer is the drive? I'd run scandisk then run the manufactuerer's diagnostic tools if they provide them (avilable on the net for most manufacturers).

247247: It was running stuff before, now it isn't. He shouldn't have to upgrade the card just for D9b's package. Yeah, he can get more performance, but it may not fix the problem if it is an underlying issue with something else.

[24747comper]

his card wouldnt even utalize directx9 would it? I thought only some of the latest cards accualy run with it.

[MadPistol]

yeah. Only DX9 compliant cards can truly run games with DX9 features in them. Older cards will simply use the DX compatibility that their card's got for it. In other words, Downloading DX9 if you don't have a DX9 card is a waste.

[bob05]

Originally posted by MadPistol
yeah. Only DX9 compliant cards can truly run games with DX9 features in them. Older cards will simply use the DX compatibility that their card's got for it. In other words, Downloading DX9 if you don't have a DX9 card is a waste.

Yes, but some games require DX 9 to run, even if your hardware is not DX 9. :t

[Rob R.]

Originally posted by bob05
Yes, but some games require DX 9 to run, even if your hardware is not DX 9. :t

This is true....

Bob05 has another point here as well. My parents system that I set up for them has a GeForce2 MX400 in it with DX9 and 45.xx drivers and it runs just fine. My nephew played Postal 2 and Mafia on it with no problems (aside of some slow frames from time to time )

aanyone, what drivers are you running on your card?

[aanyone]

Originally posted by Rob R.
This is true....

Bob05 has another point here as well. My parents system that I set up for them has a GeForce2 MX400 in it with DX9 and 45.xx drivers and it runs just fine. My nephew played Postal 2 and Mafia on it with no problems (aside of some slow frames from time to time )

aanyone, what drivers are you running on your card?

My card was built by eVGA & I'm using the driver I downloaded from their site: 53.03 WHQL. Found here. (http://www.evga.com/support/downloads/default.asp)


I seem to remember running scan disk on this drive after formatting... but I had another drive I was working on at the time, and the details blur. The drive is a WD. Could bad sectors cause this problem on just a game or two? Especially since it worked fine before DX9 I just assumed it was a software conflict or the like. But who knows? Computers are funny beasts...

[bob05]

Try uninstalling your current drivers and install the ones I gave you. :t

[Someone Stupid]

If D9, some part of the OS, or any drivers got slapped onto a bad sector then the problems could result from the drive.

[Jizumonkey]

I have a Radeon 9600 Pro and think Dx8 is much smoother than 9....I would only use 9 if i were forced to.

Don't jump on the bandwagon to use Dx9 just because it's the latest, you will probably find that the philisophy of "If it ain't broke then don't fix it" will come round to haunt you!

Best of luck.

[aanyone]

yeah, I think that's the case... I removed my current video driver, and tried to instal the one bob05 provided me. However when I rebooted my PC acted like it didn't have any video driver at all. I preformed the instal twice, to make sure I didn't over look something and each time it appeared as though the install took, and it said I'd need to reboot my PC for the new drivers to be loaded to the device... once I reboot it's like I have no driver at all (still since I had already deleted my old driver and rebooted).

I reinstalled my origional driver and my system works "normally" however I still get crazy effects on my AvP2 game.

Now My PC acts like it finds a new video device every time I reboot, and an unknown PCI device (my video card is PCI) so it asks me to instal drivers for them... I don't know where to prompt the driver instal wizard, since my video settings make it obvious that my video card is working.

So how would I removed DX9 so I can instal DX8 again?

[comp_nut]

have you checked in device manger that the card install
correctly if it didn't that's way you keep getting it on restarts

[aanyone]

Originally posted by comp_nut
have you checked in device manger that the card install
correctly if it didn't that's way you keep getting it on restarts

How can I tell if it's installed correctly?

There seems to be 2 "video devices" and 1 "PCI device" all associated with my video card... why is this? it seems like a lot to me.

[comp_nut]

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/win_xp_dm.htm


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q310126&ID=KB;EN-US;Q310126

a yellow exclamation point means you have a problem with
that device

you can disable the ones that have an exclamation mark and see if that fixes your problem ,than if it does you can leave them
alone or remove them this could mean a restart

[aanyone]

ok FYI.
I updated my Win2000 to service pack 4... along with a few other updates, and for whatever reason I had to reinstal my video drivers (I don't remem if I did it because it made me or I wanted to) but once I did, it resolved my problem with AvP2. It doesn't run as swift as before, but the distortion is gone. All other apps seem to run normal.