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Starik-Bob
01-10-2004, 11:14 AM
Anyone know a link for Doom 3 demo? :rolleyes:

tasty danish
01-11-2004, 03:30 AM
it's ILLEGAL.

RamonGTP
01-11-2004, 04:30 AM
There is no official Doom3 demo

rmanet
01-11-2004, 11:26 AM
and there is nothing else going on in this thread please - Starik - you know better.....

germanNiklas
01-11-2004, 12:21 PM
i had it, its not good
laggy..........and it was like 1gb

Starik-Bob
01-11-2004, 12:45 PM
Oh, ok. Thanks.:t

PlatoonSgtElias
01-11-2004, 09:51 PM
Well i got it going good atlast :p lol I only needed:

AmdXP2500@3200 (2360MHz) Barton
ATI9700PRO Default Hercules
1Gb Pc3200 DDR


fps wus like 40-60, no hangups whatsoever

MadPistol
01-11-2004, 10:36 PM
man. They kinda need to make some optimizations there. If the real game is like that, it won't be pretty. But my system owns so it doesn't matter. I'm ready for the game! BRING IT ON! :r

tasty danish
01-11-2004, 10:55 PM
what is the official word on talking about running it? ive had my time with it but im not sure how the mods would like us talking about it. im guessing this thread is destined to be crucified.
mods? waddaya say?

Radi0h3ad
01-12-2004, 08:21 AM
well since this is all relating to a demo that was never officially released, i can see this thread being killed... but it's interesting to note peoples' performance problems. then again having said that the 'unofficial' demo i doubt will be of the same standard as the official release. well i'd hope not anyway.

Bigjakkstaffa
01-12-2004, 12:32 PM
Bear in mind the alpha was written with the gf2 generation of cards in mind and with optimisations for no other card type. Also bear in mind that alphas are by their nature extrmeley buggy, heck Beta's are bad enough, ever played one of those? In the Ut2k3 beta you could make a cup of tea between every frame render

--Jakk:t

tasty danish
01-12-2004, 05:10 PM
well since jakk didnt seemed too put off by it,
yes i encountered the alpha in my rounds and couldnt resist, i had to try it, especially with my newly built powerhouse.
and i am excited for it, it simply runs fantastic especially considering it is an alpha.
first you download the frame rate fix: this will help out alot.
next, you need to set the cache size. this seems to have the same problem that dxiw was having, it's cache was set with the xbox in mind (32mb). i experimented with it, and found that the higher, the better, and having a gig of memory, i set my cache to 700.
after all this i ran the game at 1024x768 with 16bit color and 2x aa and 4x af. the game never dropped below 30fps and tended to stay around 60.

this is going to be one fantastic engine, especially once they get all the optomizations out of the way.

Vitalka
01-12-2004, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by tasty danish
well since jakk didnt seemed too put off by it,
yes i encountered the alpha in my rounds and couldnt resist, i had to try it, especially with my newly built powerhouse.
and i am excited for it, it simply runs fantastic especially considering it is an alpha.
first you download the frame rate fix: this will help out alot.
next, you need to set the cache size. this seems to have the same problem that dxiw was having, it's cache was set with the xbox in mind (32mb). i experimented with it, and found that the higher, the better, and having a gig of memory, i set my cache to 700.
after all this i ran the game at 1024x768 with 16bit color and 2x aa and 4x af. the game never dropped below 30fps and tended to stay around 60.

this is going to be one fantastic engine, especially once they get all the optomizations out of the way.


What video card do you have?

tasty danish
01-12-2004, 10:53 PM
well it is a 9800, but if i can run it that well, fx cards or 9600's should be able to run it decent. just wait till the real, optomized thing comes out. this here now isnt meant to be played by anyone.

Vitalka
01-13-2004, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by tasty danish
well it is a 9800, but if i can run it that well, fx cards or 9600's should be able to run it decent. just wait till the real, optomized thing comes out. this here now isnt meant to be played by anyone.

Thanks a lot man. At least now I know something about
video. :D :t

siasmaster
01-17-2004, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by tasty danish
well it is a 9800


Hey I just got a new system and It has a 9800 as well, how do you like it?

tasty danish
01-17-2004, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by siasmaster
Hey I just got a new system and It has a 9800 as well, how do you like it?

one of the coolest things ive ever owned, i just wished it didnt run so hot. other than that: completely satisfied.

bblqj78
01-17-2004, 06:30 PM
Well now thats it been brough up....i had the demo running pretty smooth with a 9700pro...all effects and at a pretty good resolution....cant wait for the full game...thing this gave me goosebumps when I first seen it. Whats that toilet level like.....!!!!! WOW!:x

bblqj78
01-17-2004, 08:07 PM
Hmm...just noticed that there is also a Half Life 2 Beta Demo available for download on the web. Has this been officially released??? If not...must have come from the Ruskies!:eek:

scoob19
01-17-2004, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by bblqj78
Hmm...just noticed that there is also a Half Life 2 Beta Demo available for download on the web. Has this been officially released??? If not...must have come from the Ruskies!:eek:

This has been out there for a few months now..its not official at all.

PlatoonSgtElias
01-17-2004, 09:09 PM
DOOM III beta GRAPHICS SUCKKKKKKKKKK:eek: :eek:
I mean... look at the detail of a character or that big dog like robot... its like software rendering:( and now.. the biggest one... load the
map e3\e3_3

And when you are allmost at the end... starting to jump down then dont... turn around... the stairways where you came up... close bye there's a cabinet... look at those clothes... OMFG

tasty danish
01-18-2004, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by PlatoonSgtElias
DOOM III beta GRAPHICS SUCKKKKKKKKKK:eek: :eek:
I mean... look at the detail of a character or that big dog like robot... its like software rendering:( and now.. the biggest one... load the
map e3\e3_3

And when you are allmost at the end... starting to jump down then dont... turn around... the stairways where you came up... close bye there's a cabinet... look at those clothes... OMFG

i'm gonna pretend i didnt read that...:rolleyes:\
or hope you were being sarcastic

AMD1014
01-18-2004, 03:42 AM
Originally posted by PlatoonSgtElias
DOOM III beta GRAPHICS SUCKKKKKKKKKK:eek: :eek:
I mean... look at the detail of a character or that big dog like robot... its like software rendering:( and now.. the biggest one... load the
map e3\e3_3

And when you are allmost at the end... starting to jump down then dont... turn around... the stairways where you came up... close bye there's a cabinet... look at those clothes... OMFG


That was just the beta,when it officially comes out it could be better.

Andy_thegame
02-10-2004, 03:53 PM
played the alpha leek a very long time ago now, was using a gf 3 then, played very badly, got around 10 fps. Got a new comp 2 months back, played the game using the new asus 9800xt, ran very good, got between 60 and 100 fps when playing the alpha demo.

I think that this game is going to be brilliant, its scary as hell.
People with low end cards will have to upgrade to next generation as the game will not run too good.

cbh
02-11-2004, 12:31 AM
To my standard, it is quite alright.

What about the monsters?

Post some pics of them! I wanna see whether they are perfect monsters or jagged ones?

germanNiklas
02-11-2004, 07:33 AM
when i played the aplha it looked quite good i think, fon an alpha..wow

as far as i can remember i just saw these three monsters

http://www.newdoom.com/newdoomshots/images/040903/3t.jpg

http://www.newdoom.com/enemies/images/12t.jpg

http://www.newdoom.com/enemies/images/2t.jpg

cant post any in game screens caus i uninstalled the game after like 1 month, 1 gb was to much for this little demo

that 2 screenshot is actualy a part u can play in the alpha
and nearly wet my pants there

edit: hm bit small
http://www.newdoom.com/enemies.php?i=zombies
http://www.newdoom.com/enemies.php?i=demons

kabe69
02-15-2004, 04:04 AM
i have pre ordered the game n have read a lot of info about doom3 alpha i think i can get it to work but i need it and dont have kazza to try n find it, can any one send me it?
im willing to pay a few bucks over pay pall if need be to get it
kabe69@aol.com <--aslo my msn
or
yahoo kabe69
aim kabe69

thank u for any one wiling to help me out

Virtuoso
02-15-2004, 07:01 AM
Listen up men, who needs a CD with Doom3 Alpha including different optimisations for weak video cards and trailers from E2, Quake Con, write to andykiev@mail.ru.
I may arrange the shipping of the disk to u. The disk costs only 5 $, excluding shipment fee, but it's worthy of it. Cos u won't find D3 Alpha in the internet and the cds are always available. Currently this offer is for Europe only but if u agree to pay outrageous international shipment fee - u're welcome :)
No bull**** and cheats - everything's fair. U pay - I send.
I may even arrange ftp for pple with broad channels but the cost will be higher, apporimately about 40 $ cos my provider charges for international outgoing and incoming traffic. That's only the price of 500 megs uploaded to ur or downloaded from my ftp. One shouldn't worry, I have thick 100 Mbps channel so everything will be fast like the rocket in the sky :D

Virtuoso
02-15-2004, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by Bigjakkstaffa
Bear in mind the alpha was written with the gf2 generation of cards in mind and with optimisations for no other card type. Also bear in mind that alphas are by their nature extrmeley buggy, heck Beta's are bad enough, ever played one of those? In the Ut2k3 beta you could make a cup of tea between every frame render
--Jakk:t

Interesting...
As far as I know the leaked alpha was optimized for Radeon 9700 Pro, that's why it runs a bit faster of R -XXX based chips than on NV's ones. Besides it all NV based cards have the problem with running the alpha with drivers higher than 40.xx.
Need more proofs? :)

Bigjakkstaffa
02-15-2004, 03:17 PM
Not what ive herd, but couldnt say.

remember though the 2x.xx Dets are those written with the Gf2 series primarily in mind, as such the 4x.xx issue isnt really conclusive

--Jakk:t

One_Inch_MAN
02-15-2004, 04:58 PM
i played it was awesome even though it was beta probabily the best graphic i ever seen:t

bob05
02-15-2004, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by Virtuoso
Interesting...
As far as I know the leaked alpha was optimized for Radeon 9700 Pro, that's why it runs a bit faster of R -XXX based chips than on NV's ones. Besides it all NV based cards have the problem with running the alpha with drivers higher than 40.xx.
Need more proofs? :)

I need more proof. ;)

[H]ard]OCP did the only credible benchmark that I've seen, and it shows Nvidia whipping on ATI: http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDc0LDE=

Doom 3 is made in OpenGL, one API that Nvidia pwns in. ;)

And P.S., in the benchmark, they use the Det. 44.03. :t

Virtuoso
02-15-2004, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by bob05
I need more proof. ;)

[H]ard]OCP did the only credible benchmark that I've seen, and it shows Nvidia whipping on ATI: http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDc0LDE=

Doom 3 is made in OpenGL, one API that Nvidia pwns in. ;)

And P.S., in the benchmark, they use the Det. 44.03. :t

Well, having read the response of such respected member :t I'll be eager to observe that the version of Doom 3 under consideration is 0.02, while I and many pple have 0.01 (I mean the version shown in E3). That's why my version refuses to run with Detonator version higher than 41.xx. Hehm, also the alpha build was demonstrated on kinda cool PC of those times P4 at 2 Ghz, including 1 Gb of RDRAM and Radeon 9700 Pro.
Many swords were crossed between ATI and NV fans regarding which chip was faster (let's recollect there was "the ultimate" graphics desicion from NV - GF 5800 and Radeon 9700 Pro from ATI). IMHO the best videocard for Doom 3 will be Radeon 9800 XT if the game appears in this year, but I heard Activison agreed to wait with game release ...untill 2005. It's nothing else than torture for all D3 fans :(

Ammok
02-15-2004, 05:50 PM
2005???? awe man, we'll all need new vid cards by then.:p

Virtuoso
02-15-2004, 05:57 PM
Yeah :). Game Spy claims it's gonna happen in July but I doubt it, cos Half life 2 is to be released in June or July too http://www.gamespy.com/games/1457.shtml
Nevermind gentlmen, we'll change our videocards two or even three times untill we play Doom 3 :). Now my GF4 Titanik :) completely satisfies me.

Bigjakkstaffa
02-15-2004, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by bob05
I need more proof. ;)

[H]ard]OCP did the only credible benchmark that I've seen, and it shows Nvidia whipping on ATI: http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDc0LDE=

Doom 3 is made in OpenGL, one API that Nvidia pwns in. ;)

And P.S., in the benchmark, they use the Det. 44.03. :t

Which is why Carmack has complained about having so much chew getting the engine to run smoothly under Nvidia cards and the need to extensively optimise the code so that Nvidia cards can keep up with Ati eh?

--Jakk:t

the_mac
02-15-2004, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by tasty danish
well it is a 9800, but if i can run it that well, fx cards or 9600's should be able to run it decent. just wait till the real, optomized thing comes out. this here now isnt meant to be played by anyone.
decent i think 9600 would run it great

kabe69
02-16-2004, 12:27 AM
i have a PCgamer mag. from when doom3 was still being made
and befor the alhpa, it was made useing the randon 9700.

and i dont see how in the heck they can change the release date,
for one reson, i have in my hand a pre-orderd doom3 box from best buy. i've NEVER seen a pre-order box come out then not have the game be a few months down the road. if they make it 2005 that would mean lots of angry people who paid the 10 bucks to get a copy befor it sold out, who would want there money back and from what ive seen Half life 2, doom3 and unreal 2k4 are all comeing out from april - june so inless some one royaly messed up, i bet it will be out in that time frame :D

spyman
02-18-2004, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by Virtuoso
Listen up men, who needs a CD with Doom3 Alpha including different optimisations for weak video cards and trailers from E2, Quake Con, write to andykiev@mail.ru.
I may arrange the shipping of the disk to u. The disk costs only 5 $, excluding shipment fee, but it's worthy of it. Cos u won't find D3 Alpha in the internet and the cds are always available. Currently this offer is for Europe only but if u agree to pay outrageous international shipment fee - u're welcome :)
No bull**** and cheats - everything's fair. U pay - I send.
I may even arrange ftp for pple with broad channels but the cost will be higher, apporimately about 40 $ cos my provider charges for international outgoing and incoming traffic. That's only the price of 500 megs uploaded to ur or downloaded from my ftp. One shouldn't worry, I have thick 100 Mbps channel so everything will be fast like the rocket in the sky :D


Are the Mods actually letting this guy sell a piece of not so legal software on this site? Doesn't anyone else have a problem with this?

tasty danish
02-18-2004, 11:50 PM
i was thinking the same, and also, the alpha is quite easily obtainable from bit torrent if you are so inclined to look.

cbh
02-19-2004, 03:00 AM
Is it from www.suprnova.org ??

kabe69
02-19-2004, 03:59 AM
ya u would think that who wants to pay that much for a free DL and something with will hit stores in like 1-2 months any ways

but as for bit.. its harder to DL then normal, ive tryed a few times and gave up, found it on IMESH tho i think.. its almost done DLing
lol
cant wait to test my setup:D

bblqj78
02-19-2004, 07:21 AM
cant wait to test my setup


I dont know why.....this demo looks very cool in some places....but I guess you are gonna be a bit dissapointed i the way the thing plays!

Virtuoso
02-19-2004, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by kabe69
ya u would think that who wants to pay that much for a free DL and something with will hit stores in like 1-2 months any ways

but as for bit.. its harder to DL then normal, ive tryed a few times and gave up, found it on IMESH tho i think.. its almost done DLing
lol
cant wait to test my setup:D

Hmm, it mostly depends on the server load where u're downloading from.

Hehm gentlmen I understand ur fair indignation towards my selling the stolen alpha version LOL, but it's only business nothing else. This subject won't be interesting in a couple of months and many pple still want to test their Radeons 9800 Pro & XT with this demo. I just help pple to get accustomed to Doom 3 :D
IMHO Doom3 will be the biggest push towards buying smth more powerful and decent for such demandful game - (if only u want to see all the wonders and effects). But I was amazed having seen the latest demo...what a nice thing to see. :t

kabe69
02-19-2004, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Virtuoso

Hehm gentlmen I understand ur fair indignation towards my selling the stolen alpha version LOL, but it's only business nothing else.

business of selling something not legal? are u dumb or just ignorent? if any one reported you , ya could get in to truble.
not to mention you are trying to sell something thats not even worth that much most id pay was 10 dollers, u want 50+
so ya.. u do that..:rolleyes:

and i wanna test my set up cuase i wanna see if i can get it to load and work , not to test the FPS or game play. i already know its a sweet game, just dont wanna have to get the game and have something not meet the recs. of the game.

Virtuoso
02-19-2004, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by kabe69
business of selling something not legal? are u dumb or just ignorent? if any one reported you , ya could get in to truble.
not to mention you are trying to sell something thats not even worth that much most id pay was 10 dollers, u want 50+
so ya.. u do that..:rolleyes:

and i wanna test my set up cuase i wanna see if i can get it to load and work , not to test the FPS or game play. i already know its a sweet game, just dont wanna have to get the game and have something not meet the recs. of the game.

Well what I may say dude, I live in country where I dl all the software from our ftps (I'm not boasting though). I don't think it's illegal unless one knows of it - and I'm not in habit of telling which software I use. I just consider unwise to buy smth without having any idea of how the software works and what it presents in itself. So I may even sell u Microsoft Office Pro 2003 :D.
To Moderator - it's not advertising I'm not gonna sell that and I just stating the fact, I respect Microsoft :)
About the price - u'd better read carefully - there was written 40 not 50 bucks - and such kinda high price is only the cost of uploaded or downloaded volume of information which is called traffic. One gigabite here costs about 80 bucks, so this's just the price of TRAFFIC not because I wanna make too much profit on pple. The situation is the following - it might be kinda difficult to believe for western users - I don't pay for downloading from local resources of my country but I pay for international traffic e.g all foreign countries, but mine. Too sad but if I paid only subscriber's fee the cost would be much more less :(

kabe69
02-19-2004, 05:46 PM
that whole post made me glad to live in america even more,
no disrepect to you, but if u have room for it on a FTP any one can download it, no matter where u are and alll you pay is the monthly fee, even my internet provider gave me 25mb just to have and my free website gives me anether 30, so u haveing to pay that much, is funny

and in america, DLing of anything that isnt FREE is illegal
music,programs,movies,GAMES... seeing as doom3 was made in america... its copyrighted.. so ya.. its wrong to sell it:rolleyes:

Virtuoso
02-19-2004, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by kabe69
and in america, DLing of anything that isnt FREE is illegal
music,programs,movies,GAMES... seeing as doom3 was made in america... its copyrighted.. so ya.. its wrong to sell it:rolleyes:

Alright I didn't know the situation with copyright is so tough in the US, I'm sorry :confused:
But could u tell me one more thing - if for example u downloaded a big file no matter which one - software or licensed movie, etc, how ur provider would know that u'd downloaded exactly the stuff u needed? Well except the situation when u told everyone u did. Or I may assume all the Internet providers in the US spy for their user activity which is direct violation of human rights from the other hand. :(

BipolarBill
02-19-2004, 07:26 PM
Since there is no legitimate Doom 3 demo, this thread is closed.

Starik-Bob
02-19-2004, 07:31 PM
lol, finally :t

cbh
02-19-2004, 08:16 PM
Closed??

Where's the lock??

rmanet
02-20-2004, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by Starik-Bob
lol, finally :t

I politely warned you in the fourth posting in this thread when it first started - LOL? Was traveling so didn't circle back but your response is totally inappropriate - finally BpB closes the thread because you all decided to ignore the rules.

Keep it up and you won't last long as a sysopt member......