AMD 2500 v. 3200 & The Winner is?

[mobo57]

My system:
K7n2 Delta ILSR Mobo
1 gig Corsair 3200C2PT DDR
ATI 9800 Pro
W2K SP4
AMD 3200 XP 11.5 @ 200

Ran Aqua and the score is:

[mobo57]

Installed a 2500 barton at 11.5 & 200, vdimm at hardware setting, results::mad:

[bblqj78]

Hey mobo...
Nice to see that they are nearly the same. A couple of hundred points not really much. Have you tried doing the same with 3dMark2001?

[mobo57]

Sure did:
2500= 18,668
3200= 18,832

3dmark 03:
2500= 6,050
3200= 6,118

I could have saved myself 300$ had I known that last year when I bought the 3200. I did pick 4 more 2500's at Fry's last week, all unlocked. Seems there still are some of them left around.

[bob05]

I wonder why (even slightly) does the 2500 perform less than the 3200. Even if the difference is soooooo minute it's not noticed, I'm just curious why it performed lower. :t

[bblqj78]

Well...was contemplating buy a 3200 couple of months back. Instead purchased an XP2800 for £10 more than a XP2500 and OC'd to so far 215x11. Its good to see that all I would have got extra would have been a measly 100 3DMark points..:D

[mobo57]

I don't know if it makes any matter, but the 2500 shows up as a 200 fsb in WCPUID and the 3200 shows at 201 fsb?? I think that would be the difference. But why?

[bblqj78]

Funny you say that....when I set my Xp2800 at a FSB of say 212...when I go back into Mindows and run 3dMark system details, WCPUID or similar programs I allways get a reading just less thanj what I have set it in the BIOS. If I set 212 then the readings in windows will show 211. Have wondered myself why this happens????

[Wilan Wong]

Maybe it has something to do wif rounding-up or down? :)

[XtReAmTwEaKist]

there's never an exact number for a mhz its always has its .3 or ect so its never exact plus some times the bios fluctuates the FSB for stabillity

[Ankun]

think it would be possible to see some scores with your setup running the 2500+ barton at stock speeds?

edit: just 3dmark2001, unless you really want to run the others.

[ink124]

Originally posted by mobo57
Sure did:
2500= 18,668
3200= 18,832

3dmark 03:
2500= 6,050
3200= 6,118

I could have saved myself 300$ had I known that last year when I bought the 3200. I did pick 4 more 2500's at Fry's last week, all unlocked. Seems there still are some of them left around.

Did you get the retail ones by any chance? I purchased a retail 2500 from fry's two weeks ago. Is there anyway, without looking at the actual chip (it's too much hassle while it's in the computer), to find out if it's unlocked or not?

Thanks,
ink

[Imperion1]

Raise the multiplier to 12. This'll tell you if its locked or not. If its locked, the system will either not boot. Or it will boot at a slower clock speed.

And why do people think they need to have an unlocked chip to be able to overclock it.:confused: On a 2500+, just raise the fsb to 200 and you'll have the speed of a 3200+.

[Logan[TeamX]]

I'm goin diggin' for benchmark pics now... I've got my Barton 2500+ @ 12.5x180, and even though it's only 50MHz faster than a stock 3200+... the difference is clear. Not only do the synth. benches (SiSoft Sandra 2004, etc.) show a clear lead... in real-world stuff (MP3, DivX encoding, etc.) compared against 3-4 sites... I pull ahead by the proper margin for CPU-related tasks.

Bum processor (barely) maybe?

[stix_kua]

Okay...those benchmarks rely more on the video card than the CPU...You weren;t ripped off it's just the way it is...

[Logan[TeamX]]

Originally posted by Imperion1
Raise the multiplier to 12. This'll tell you if its locked or not. If its locked, the system will either not boot. Or it will boot at a slower clock speed.

And why do people think they need to have an unlocked chip to be able to overclock it.:confused: On a 2500+, just raise the fsb to 200 and you'll have the speed of a 3200+.

Good point, Imperion1.

Actually, when I toss the Palomino XP 1800+ I have in my Via KT400a board and tell it to boot at a 12 multi, it just boots at 11.5 anyways. Speedfan and even msinfo32 confirm it. The Pallys just ignore the multi-mod instruction. They ignore all multiplier modifications... truely locked, at least on a KT400a chipset.

Thought I'd add that.

[mobo57]

Ankun: Sorry, been on travel.
2500 at stock:
3d 01: 14,666
3d 03: 5435
Aqua: 35,846

11 to 20% slower than the stock 3200.
Looks like I'll put together a couple of systems with the rest of the 2500 and oc' them up for the rest of my office.