GeForce Ti 4400 Question

[Ferum]

One of my friends is offering me his old GeForce 4 Ti 4400 for "a hell of a deal".

Apparently it's one of the earlier 4400's made, and he had a 4x motherboard at the time and for whatever reason doesn't know what AGP speed it runs at.

Does anyone know if the Ti 4400 used to be 4x only, or if they always supported 8x?

[matthew13l]

No they haven't always supported 8x, but don't worry about it cuz 8x has an extremely minimal performance increase over 4x

-Matt:t

[Ferum]

Ok thanks, I'll probably get it as long as it gives me favourable frame rates in raven shield :cool: .

I guess before I go and don't look back I should mention it's PNY based, and if there's anything I should know?

[Jawa]

Before you get it, you better make sure that you know this friend well so that he doesn't rip you off with a dead card. :eek:

But as to regards as its a PNY card -- PNY has made some solid GF4Ti-based video cards. I have a TI4200 made by PNY and it is perfect, never have had a problem.

PNY makes awesome, stable cards. Go for it. :)

Also.. a hell of a deal would be about $100-$115 US. - since it's an older model and it is used. That's what I would price it at. :t

[scottluebke2003]

the Ti4400 should get good FPS in Raven Shield, but forget about AA and AF

[Beeblequix]

The 4600, 4400, and 4200 of olde were all 4x/2x cards.

I'm interested what the rest of your components will be? What proc, mobo, ram, etc?

ß

[smartxtai]

remember you need a good cpu and enough ram to take advantage of the ti 4400 or else there is no point buying it from yoru friend

[Bigjakkstaffa]

For older, sub 2GHz/XP2000+ systems the Gfti4xxx series of cards are an ideal match, as stated they will handle todays games well enoguh, though all the bells and whsitles, AA and AF will probably be a no-no on newer titles

--Jakk:t

[Cyan]

Originally posted by smartxtai
remember you need a good cpu and enough ram to take advantage of the ti 4400 or else there is no point buying it from yoru friend

NOT true.

[Bigjakkstaffa]

^^True...sort of.

THe key thing to buying PC components is balance, its no good having gods own Gfx card if your running it on a machine with all the processing power of a pocket calculator. Similarly its no good having a 5Ghz CPU and some kid with an etch-a-sketch rendering your graphics for you.

On extrmemly underpowered machines you will find that slappign in a fantastically fast graphics cards will still do nothing for performance, however for the majority of machines, even if you cant take full advanatge of the new graphical power, you will notice soem form of performance boost

--Jakk:t

[Cyan]

I'll agree with you somewhat there Jakk. But when I got my first graphics card (about 3-4 generations ahead of my computer) there was a massive difference in quality and speed. Granted, if when you play games it slows down a ton just to load sounds, your card probably won't do much good, but overall the difference is great.

[smartxtai]

actually cyan, having a good cpu along with your vid card does matter. I know, cuz i have seen the difference. I originally had a p3 800 with ti4400 and i could only run wc3 at medium detail during team play. Also, i could only run at the lowest detail setting in need for speed underground. Now with my new p4 2.26 with pc1066 rdram, i can run BOTH those games at high detail full res. My 3d Mark 2001 score jumped from around 5200 to around 10,000. So it does matter. If you dont' believe me, even tomshardware has done a test on this.

http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030120/index.html

Though it might not matter on a lower vid card (GF2, etc), when you start getting higher up, like the gf4s +, it really does matter.


I'm not saying you will see no performance difference if you just upgrade the vid card keeping the same old cpu. Of course you will, but I am saying you will not be taking advantage of the cards capabilities. I would have never though I could run NFS:Underground at full detail after I upgraded my cpu.

[scottluebke2003]

I must agree with Cyan. When I bought my Ti4200, I slapped it in an Athlon 900 w/ SDRAM and old chipset. I noticed a huge difference. 5000 more 3dmarks in 2001SE. But I underdstand that not everyone see's this improvement.