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NyCeGuY79
11-17-2003, 09:42 PM
I got an ati radeon 9600 pro and everything's normal when i run windows and other apps...but when i run counterstrike it'll run for a few minutes then the game freezes...NOT THE COMPUTER...and then i wait and then the monitor goes down and it says something is messed up with my hz? i 4get...but i tried different drivers and different refresh rates and installed the right drivere's for my monitor but it still happened...so i returned my vid card and got a new one...i have yet to install it but i pray it'll werk...can someone please tell my y that happened in case it happens again?

cuelebre
11-17-2003, 09:48 PM
Audio drivers.;)

cuelebre
11-17-2003, 09:52 PM
It also could be your memory timmings, try some more "relax" settings just in case U R OCling.

Those two are issues I had with games in general.

DIMfilm
11-18-2003, 01:34 AM
seems to be a software problem, upgrade MB BIOS, and also install the MB drivers. (exemple: 4in1 package if u have an a7v board) Turn off "Fast writes" in the bios and in display proprieties "SMARTGART" see if it helps, and set the memory to UC (not USWC) in the bios.

jonwes
11-18-2003, 02:21 AM
Coincidentally, those are the same types of problems that plagued my 9700 Pro, which is why I'm now typing away on a 100% trouble free Nvidia Asylum FX 5900 system. The ATI's look great, but generate a lot of problems either due to the drivers or the inherent design of the hardware. It doesn't help that ATI only has a toll number in Canada to call into and they are terrible at returning RMA requests - actually, beyond terrible bordering on insulting. BFG provides true lifetime warranties and toll free tech support 24/7 on all of their Asylum cards. Do yourself a favor and pick up a 5700 Ultra or a 5900 - your problems will be solved.

snodogg21
11-18-2003, 05:04 AM
yeah do your self a favor and drop another $300-$500 on a new nvidia card :rolleyes:

you just need to make sure all your games and drivers are patched and up to date... its not like nvidia hasnt had its share of driver problems recently either... :t

Strawbs
11-18-2003, 05:19 AM
you could look at reinstalling directX, it doesn't always take on the first install and is known to be troublesome if not 100%, Also check the fan on the gfx card is spinning freely, some have been known to get sticky ...but you might not see any effect until you stress the card.

oh! and nVidia sucks ...imho! :rolleyes:

:t

Aznmask
11-18-2003, 11:50 AM
What is your Power supply? what WATT? czu when i changed my video card ATI 8500 my 200WATT PSU can't even handle CS...

maje87c
11-18-2003, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by jonwes
Coincidentally, those are the same types of problems that plagued my 9700 Pro, which is why I'm now typing away on a 100% trouble free Nvidia Asylum FX 5900 system. The ATI's look great, but generate a lot of problems either due to the drivers or the inherent design of the hardware. It doesn't help that ATI only has a toll number in Canada to call into and they are terrible at returning RMA requests - actually, beyond terrible bordering on insulting. BFG provides true lifetime warranties and toll free tech support 24/7 on all of their Asylum cards. Do yourself a favor and pick up a 5700 Ultra or a 5900 - your problems will be solved.

You had a 9700 Pro and you bought an FX5900? Do us all a favor and tell us how to grow a money tree.

I see your point, yes, ATi's do require a bit of tweaking/playing around to get configured, but for right now, ATi has the best mid-range card for the amount I'm willing to pay.

snodogg21
11-18-2003, 07:40 PM
agreed,

that was the point i was trying to make earlier, it was not that nvidia sucks, ati is just a better choice imho. And this guy is tellin him to drop a huge wad of cash on a new card

jamil5454
11-18-2003, 09:05 PM
the 5700 ultra is on par with a 9600XT. i would still get the 9600XT tho for the hl2 bundle. theres always a solution to your problem - just might be harder to find with an ATI card. ive had my 9600 pro and its stable as a rock, with great performance too.

Someone Stupid
11-19-2003, 12:39 AM
ATI's has been having driver problems lately, if your running anything newer than the 3.7's, I'd drop back to the 3.7's.

chaser_22
11-19-2003, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Aznmask
What is your Power supply? what WATT? czu when i changed my video card ATI 8500 my 200WATT PSU can't even handle CS...

How exactly did you figure that out?

What kind of symptoms do you usually get when your PSU can't deliver.

Just asking cause I wan't to rule out any possible problems with my gaming rig.

Stability is something that has been lacking for some time now.

rsfnatik
11-19-2003, 10:36 AM
Wow, ATI sucks... odd... my 9500 Pro hasn't made a single hiccup over the last six months that i've had it.

Strawbs
11-19-2003, 12:15 PM
This PSU Calculator (http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/) can be used to help figure out power consumption! You should probably add an extra 50watts to the total to be certain of stability in all conditions.

:t

chaser_22
11-19-2003, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by Strawbs
This PSU Calculator (http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/) can be used to help figure out power consumption! You should probably add an extra 50watts to the total to be certain of stability in all conditions.

:t

Handy tool, according to the calculation I'm short of 30 Watt.

Probably do something about it soon.

jamil5454
11-19-2003, 06:22 PM
im short 35 watt :(. but my system is stable as a rock and all voltages are right on with my generic 300 watt PSU.

Someone Stupid
11-19-2003, 10:55 PM
It's a bit generous, also you have to remember that not all devices draw full power at the same time - Never pretty much. Your not ever really going to have your vid card drawing max playing some game with 7.1 surround sound while your burning a DVD from another optical drive while you are running defrag on your RAID array per se with 100% cpu utilization - you just don't do that. So there are fluctuations. It is a bit generous with what some components use wattage wise, but that is to be on the safe side. Still though, it is showing that if you are around the recommended rating, you can overtax the PSU in theory. If you want to know for sure what your able to draw at max, you need to look at the power ratings for each item - no calc is ever going to cover each and every component by model. The processor is about the only thing you'll ever have to guess at other than the motherboard which will give you a large number which generally includes ram and processor, though some don't. SiSoft can give you an fairly good reading of what your drawing from the CPU though. Your still left guessing on the mobo - so the more bells and whistles, the more it will draw.

chaser_22
11-20-2003, 04:24 AM
Originally posted by jamil5454
im short 35 watt :(. but my system is stable as a rock and all voltages are right on with my generic 300 watt PSU.

Well, I have an A-open 300 Watt PSU and according to the mobo monitor tool (USDM) for my Epox8RDA+ the voltages aren't right on the money. Mainly the +12 V and +5 V rail which are fluctuating between -0,2/-0,3 V and my 3.3 V rail which is fluctuating between -0,6/-0,7 V.

I know it's supposed to fluctuate a bit, but I think at least my 3.3 rail shouldn't be that low.

Anyhow, didn't give it much thought, I mean, when it comes to stability issues, PSU wasn't exactly the main suspect to me.