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Harshu
11-07-2003, 01:12 PM
Well i have a newly purchased AMD Athlon XP 2600+ (256KB Cache) on ASUS A7N8X Delux motherboard (PCB 2 - 400FSB). The Problem is the temp. It sits idle at 48 C but goes bout 67 C-68 C. Even when i open one side of the cabinet (The maximun ventilation i can give ;) ) it still goes to bot 58 C. I have actually underclock the processor to 160 FSB (from default 166). I have to mount two additional fans to the cabinet which will help definately but i want to know what is the RPM of the CPU Fan of Athlon XP 2600+ (stock Heatsink n Fan). It runs at the RPM of 3200 only. But on my second system AMD Athlon XP 2000+ the Stock Fan speed runs at bout 5400rpm. Do i have a defective fan. I know the older Palmino coler run hotter than the new core i have in 2600+ but still i think the FAN is slow. Is it true.
megaspazz
11-07-2003, 01:37 PM
Can't tell you exactly what rpm's a stock AMD
fan operates at but I do know some people have
cooling issues with stock AMD fans. Even with
an XP 1900+ a friend of mine had to have a
household floor fan blowing in the case from
day one. I believe he fixed the problem with
a better heatsink fan and a case fan or two.
:) I have an 1800+ with stock cooling and no
no probs so I guess I'm a lucky one! :)
hope you can solve the prob:t
Some chips are just hotter than others. Mine is at about 60 C average (2100+@1820Mhz). But it should have no problem. Sure, the CPU's life is reduced, but still, it'll outlive its usefulness.
To make you feel somewhat better, I had a thunderbird 1333 which would hit (and stay at) 80 C on a daily basis. I kept it for 2 years, its still alive.
Look at the maximum temps on this page:
http://www.amdboard.com/amdid.html
The speed for the stock heatsink on my system is a little over 5200
leprechaun_40
11-07-2003, 05:12 PM
OK, a few things to check. Did you use the thermal pad that came with the HSF? If so, did you remember to remove the protective film from it? Is the HSF seated properly, not cocked off at an angle? Do you have sufficient ventilation in the case? ( How many fans, blowing which way in other words) Do you have sufficient clearance behind the case for the hot exhaust? Try checking these items and see if they are all good, then get back to us. Also, what are you using to get your temp readings? Some programs are not very accurate, I'd trust the bios temp first.
$1500-P4 gamer
11-07-2003, 06:37 PM
What he said. And I would mainly look at just the cpu/HSf setup. ITs gotta be that for such high temps. My guess is the HSF is backwards. THe notch on HSF must face the step on ZIF. Labled socket A where handle bar meets. And also the film is commenly missed, must be removed. Make sure your vcore in bios is also at 1.65v or AUTO setting;)
"Some chips are just hotter than others. Mine is at about 60 C average (2100+@1820Mhz). "
Yup but yours is obviously a Palo core. They are hotter. Even a tbred-A is lots cooler. 1 more layer of metal in core ya know.
"Well i have a newly purchased AMD Athlon XP 2600+ (256KB Cache)"
His is tbred-B TONS cooler than a Palo. His temp shouldnt be more than 45c idle/50c max load. My 2500+ Barton (basically a tbred-B with 512 l2 cache) hasnt ever seen 50c at thats even with a oclock to 3200+. Now my moms old 1600+ palo avg 55c load 50c idle. Ploped in my old 2200+ tbred A and the temps dropped big time. Same setup other wise.
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Magua
11-07-2003, 08:20 PM
Whats your motherboard temp? That will atleast narrow down the problem to case ventilation, or to your heatsink.
scottluebke2003
11-07-2003, 09:04 PM
it should run fine even at higher temps like that. My XP2100 runs at around 50-60C all day long and I have no probs. But when I had an older Athlon 900mhz system, I came home one day and the computer had locked up, the case was so hot that it burnt my hand when i touched it. I thought for that the comp was done for. But she rebooted just fine. How says Biostar mobo's suck? they get the job done!
LOL, I always get such reactions when I tell people my temps.
Well, for the 80 C T-bird, there was no thermal pad. It had paste. I didnt build the system myself, but I swapped the chip with my current one. The guy who built it had put heaps of paste on it, which is why I suspect the temps were that high.
My other chip (2100+) is a thoroughbred A. I'm using the stock HSF (with thermal pad removerd), no case fans, lid closed and its slightly overclocked, with the bus at 140. I was careful with the paste but it still runs relatively hot. Voltage is on auto but I monitor is with cpuCool. It goes anywhere from 1.58 to 1.63. Never actually seen 1.65. Do you think I should manually set it at 1.65?
For the temps, I'm using cpucool. I was using MBM 5 before that. I think they both just report the bios temp since its identical to that.
Motherboard temp is at 40 C
Anyway, I know I am guilty of negligence (should've done something about that t-bird, and even my current one) but the point I was trying to make is that if that t-bird survived 2 years of heavy use at 80 C, I find it a bit exagerating that people panic when they see 50 C.
Harshu
11-08-2003, 07:45 AM
Well the strip on the thermal pads were removed. The mobo temp is usually @ 30 C to 35 C at Max load. Sits @ 27 in Idle condition. CPU volatage is set to auto @ 1.65v. I told u i have decresed the FSB to 160 from 166. As far as ventelation is concerned i told u i have open the cover of the cabinet still temp readings touches a high of 55-60 C.
I want to know the speed of the Stocked HSF. Mines runs @ 3200 rpm. Which i think is quite low as compared to my Athlon XP 2000+ which runs @ 5400 rpm.
$1500-P4 gamer
11-08-2003, 07:09 PM
Well its a diff fan aint it. Look at the blades. More twist = less rpm's with same cfm. If its pushing lots of air (feel around hs when running) then it isnt the problem. My 2200+ stock fan is the same. About 3.2k rpm but the retail HS is copper slugged aluminum so needs less fan power too. That and its a tbred-A. If you still think its cooling that is problem you only hav eone choice. Buy a REAL HSF and then check it again.:t
causticVapor
11-09-2003, 09:18 PM
Yep, I second P4's advice. The better-HSF-than stock is an almost universal cure to cooling problems in the sub-2.3GHz range.
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