Nvidia Unleashes Performance Maxing Tool

[fizur2002]

I wonder what this could do for us overclockers.

[Someone Stupid]

Makes overclocking look pretty. :) Actually it looked like it offered more on the side of what you can do with ram timings for the most part, or it was just the board, and the 8rda+ doesn't support **** - which is unlikely.

[Someone Stupid]

I have the latest BIOS be EPoX and with the new nvidia toy, I can't access one panel, it won't reconize my memory other than Corsair, it didn't even know what multiple the [*-deleted word-*] thing was running on until I saved a "profile." All I could change were the Mem speed, the AGP speed, and the RAS, CAS, and RP. That is bloody it. Naturally if you crank the memory up, you'll need to volt it sometimes, so that is a problem I can see, then your raising the FSB, so you need to crank the vcore up, but you can't. To run at a faster AGP bus speed, it helps to be able to knock the voltage up on that as well. A waste of time is what this program is as of now. It has infantile overclocking abilities. As usual from nvidia of late, lots of promises, little action. Did they get the engineers who work on their GPU cores to program this thing? I mean at least their driver engineers have finally shown some competency.

(*** Polite language only please *** - WSUA (http://www.internet.com/corporate/legal.html) 3. a.)

[killer_teddy]

Yeah I too gave it a go and I agree Someone Stupid it kinda sucks, but then I wasn't expecting much in the first place so I'm not too disapointed.

[fizur2002]

Well ive got an MSI board, so i will give it a go and let yall know my results, i think everyone who tries it should post their mobo.

[fizur2002]

Alright, got the thing installed and i only have access to the overclocking basics, I guess we might have to get the nForce3 mobos to take full advantage of it. But also notice that it is still a version 1 of the software, and i am sure they will impliment more stuff into it as the bugs get worked out.

[killer_teddy]

Sorry my board is a MSI K7N2-L Delta w/ BIOS 5.1

[Strawbs]

A7n8x dlx, only basic o\c'ing!

need BIOS support for advanced options, hopefully asus is on the case.

:t

[fizur2002]

I have the same board as you teddy.

[Someone Stupid]

Well EPoX had made one change that is visible in the bios itself that must have been required for the program to operate (and decided to make it user visible for those without the program). So either the advanced is only for the nforce3 boards or they still have some major writing to do on either the bios or the programs side. I'm leaning towards the program since not a single board truly supports it, and I'm running the latest bios and I'd assume you guys are as well. The Asus Deluxe and EPoX 8rda+ aren't known to be slouches in any area really when it comes to overclocking, so you'd think they would make the few changes needed. Sounds like a half baked program from nvidia at the moment unless a week from now we all have new bios files to download.

[fizur2002]

Or a new update for the progie

[jude]

It works with my ASUS nforce2 mb but i wont update my bios to make it more functional,
cause the last time i tried flashing my bios using the asus tool it killed the board, fortunately my dealer replaced it with the deluxe version but it toke 2 months to do it. I had to comandeer a computer for all that time. :). Asus mb deaths are everywere on forums due to bios failure.

[Strawbs]

If you read the blurb on the nVidia website and the nForcersHQ "Drivers" forums (1 or 2 of the Mods there have links to the developement team) ...the proggie is for nForce2\3 chipsets, but the manufacturers need to enable BIOS support before the advanced options are made available. I thought I could make it clear with as little typing as possible earlier because I was tired at the time, but it didn't stick!

:t

[Strawbs]

nForcersHQ\Drivers\nVidia system util is out\ (http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34029).

:t

[Someone Stupid]

It's strange though that EPoX, knowing they'd have to do ANOTHER bios release rather soon anyhow to get full compatibility would release one on 10/17 when the previous one has the exact same description. The only explanation is to get the basics to work. I'm guessing the program is bloody particular with how it wants certain things done - hence why EPoX at least has opted for one minimal function release to I'm assuming a full release. No mention was made of new features, used the old features from the previous sets release notes - but the bios had two new options, both fairly irrelevant as one you can disable at another screen, and the other I can't see why you'd want to disable it.

[Strawbs]

That would be nVidia's fault. They never release drivers\software when they are s'posed too, sometimes the extra wait can be 3 month's after the original planned release date passes. Mobo manufacturers probably get fed up of waiting (rightly so IMO) and go with their own sheduled BIOS releases\updates.

The whole "Forceware (http://www.nvidia.com/page/software.html)" package was slated for release in early October, here we are in early November with a "System Utility" that has little or no extra features compared to a generic freeware tweaking\info utility! I've been waiting nearly 6 months for an IDE driver that actually accelerates the IDE bus and doesn't come with a host of blue screens hidden up it's sleeve. Every time they release it, they pull it down again after a day or so because of "Bugs". I don't know what nVidia think they're doing these days, but whatever it is ...it ain't good! :(

[Someone Stupid]

I clicked on a link to nvidia's system utility tool from a site that was doing some overclocking (jakk linked the site yesterday or the day before IIRC), and I got sent to the Forceware site... the last thing I'd want is to download the FX drivers on my machine with the 4200 in it. Their goes speed, graphics quality, and control over the bloody card. I'll stick with the old detonators on that machine. So if one needs the Forceware drivers for it to work as well, I'm not installing any nvidia garbage other than what is necessary, and that is only the chipset and on the junker machine, the graphics card as well. I'm not letting them ruin a perfectly good board, especially one I can't replace.

I'm like you, I've stuck with the 2000 IDE drivers, the nforce2's show improvements in one or two areas, then bomb in others, then they correct those and then they bomb in the ones they did better than the 2000's at. And they never were that much faster and I'm on mostly SCSI for my main rig, so it doesn't matter, just I don't want to lose all my papers for med school because of a bloody driver, hence why it is staying off that machine. Can't imagine how they perform against the XP's driver which takes much better advantage of IDE from the limited usage I get from it, it seem to work a tad better, at least on sequential writes which is the majority of what I use it for - backup.

[Strawbs]

Typical, just as soon as I ***** about the IDE driver taking 6 month's they go and release a new one! :D

For XP and 2000 only (http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_udp_winxp_3.13).

:t

[fizur2002]

What the hell, i cant download from any of the links. What do you expect from nvidia.

[Rrip]

And of course it only works on Nforce mobos..... or at least it won't work at all on mine.... wonder if there will be at least some functionallity in later version for non Nforce mobos.

[killer_teddy]

Why would nVidida want it to work on other mobos?

[Someone Stupid]

It will never work on other motherboards, it hardly works on theirs to begin with. Using the Bios is still the best bet. As locking up in windows can cause some nice file corruption.

[daav1]

Hi All, A few days ago, I went over to the nVidia Site to see if there were any 'new' Drivers, for my old GeForce2 GTS/Pro card, I'm running the '4.14.10.4523' Drivers now..., and that's when I read about the New System Utility.
The only problem I have w/a Utility like this, is they make it sound like it's great for "All" 'nVidia M/B's'. But, as I read a little further into it..., the Utility is just for a 'Minority' of MoBo's out there, Like approx (10), M/B's, but it says: "Not limited to...,"
Still, the Advertising & Marketing of Software like this, always comes out a "Bit/Alot too Early", and O/C'ers like us have to do their "Beta Testing for it". I guess they think that 'even though our M/B's are close', (to what they have posted), we will test it for them.
Then you read: "System Utility is designed specifically for nForce2 and nForce3 processors." Or, "The interface works with nForce2 and nForce3 motherboards including, but not limited to, ASUSTeK A7N8X-E, Biostar M7NCG, Epox EP-8RDA+ and EP-8RDA3+, Abit NF7, Gigabyte K8NNXP, and Shuttle AN50R."
Me..., I'm gonna wait 'til everyone else trys it, and all the 'Bugs are Fixed', (and 'I' don't have to deal w/BSOD, Freeze-ups, No-Boot's, etc.), before I even think of installing it! :cool:

Later...
-daav1- ;)

[Slitelyused]

My mobo is the Asus A7n266-VM (AA) and it isnt even mentioned. It does have the Nvidia Nforce 2 chipsets. I'll shy away on this one as I dont OC anyways and all the functions perform as intended. Old adage,,," If it ain't broke, Dont fix it"

[Someone Stupid]

The boards have to support a certain range of overclocking features, not to mention the bios - as on the 8rda+ I can only access the basics, have to use another program to access other things from windows - only thing I can't change that is a major component is CAS settings really from windows using two programs. I'm surprised the Biostar made it as all their other boards with overclocking options don't overclock - I'm guessing this one actually does (not saying they make bad boards, for stock they are great as they are cheap and a customer can't tamper with it).