Shift Key...........

[clippmanta]

http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-5089168.html?tag=st_lh

I'm removing all shift keys from my keyboards.........to avoid litigation.:rolleyes:

[cwin]

dac can get around stuff
so can end takd

[zybch]

I always disable Window's autorun feature. If the copy protected CDs rely on it being enabled and installing a driver, then I'm doing the same as pressing the shift key when I stick the CD into my drive.

I think the company is just pissed that simply pressing shift of getting rid of autoplay renders their (probably) very expensive anti-copy scheme useless.

[Mm9004]

It's obvious that they're just worried about their reputation. I would be too. That's one simple work-around.

I guess I've been doing it this whole time if I've disabled AutoRun. That's an option you get in TweakUI by the way. To me, Autorun was very annoying. Now it's even worse knowing that it's been installing things on my HDD without my permission just by putting the disk in the drive.

It's been almost a year since I did anything illegal on my PC. Music files, programs, tools, all bought and paid at full price. Yet somehow, because the only way to defend themselfs from the real theves out there, I have to pay for it. I can't do certain things on my computer that would be convenient, like making an ISO of Raven Shield disk 2, so my game will run faster. That was today. I'll just get the crack. I didn't want to though, I wanted an ISO. I can't do that because there are people out there (my 'friends') who will steal from these companys. And every time they do, It makes it a little harded to perform certain functions on my PC because I must go through a work-around.

What this guy did was wrong, but according to law, I don't think he should be punished all that much. Or at all, becasue there is no proof that he did anything illegal on HIS computer. Just showed how it could be potentially done. Stuff like that happens all the time. Just because Kazaa is P2P, doesn't mean that the makers should be arrested, because it is possible to use the software without breaking any copywrite laws (I do it). (Although everyone knows that that was the intension of the makers it can;t be prooven).

[j.m@talk]

Fair doos if you ask me :)

They made it ............. He broke it............... The nature of the game ................. :rolleyes:

Can't stand the heat ................ Kitchen exit is this way ->

[clippmanta]

now, they won't sue.......Huh?

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5089448.html


"It wasn't about the Shift key...It had nothing to do with that. It had to do with reviewing a rabbit when we invented the duck and saying the rabbit didn't work right."

:confused:

[zybch]

I suppose the majority of people out there have no idea about autoplay and how to turn it off.
Only the geeks and those of us who have been dabbling with our PCs since we all had 4MHz 86 machines running DOS v2 and Gem really have any great grasp of the technology.
I work as a PC tech and the majority of my clients are your average mum (mom if you like) and pop who've just bought their first computer and need help installing a printer. These kinds of people have no concept that the are breaking the law when they rip CDs or download songe using kazza.
These are the people who the anti-copy measures are made to stop.

Just like copy protection in games, within hours of a title being released, a crack becomes available. Same with protected CDs (remember the one where you just had to draw around the edge of the disk with a black marker?).

[Torlok2002]

Originally posted by zybch

I work as a PC tech and the majority of my clients are your average mum (mom if you like) and pop who've just bought their first computer and need help installing a printer. These kinds of people have no concept that the are breaking the law when they rip CDs or download songe using kazza.
These are the people who the anti-copy measures are made to stop.



Yeah, but you have to realize that some of those PARENTS have kids that become technologically (gifted?), and are going to figure out how to surf the internet and learn these tricks, then they show their mom, their mom shows a friend at work, her friend tells her son, her son tells his buddy at school, he tells 12 other kids during lunch... the word gets around pretty fast, as long as it is easy!



Its fairly easy to hold down a key compared to disabling autoplay to an average user. I think they should stop making STUPID anti-copy schemes, if it can be read by a PC, its gonna be copied, period.


And also, they are not the ones usually ripping songs and hosting them, they are the ones leaching off others, then unknowingly hosting those to others (and for some reason think that kazaa is a good media player....). I know very few of these users who are the initial sources of ripped songs/video. If the songs are already ripped, then how is this stopping them?

[Torlok2002]

of course this would stop casual " I wanna copy this CD fro my friend so ill open up Easy CD Creator...."

[zybch]

The whole problem is made worse (as far as the RIAA cares) because as soon as 1 person hosts a new MP3, its not long before there are hundreds, then thousands of people doing the same because they don't fully understand how their P2P programs work.
Ma and Pa might download a lot, but they also host the same songs without realising it.

As far as autoplay goes, I often long for the days of DOS, where your computer did absolutley nothing unless you told it to.

[Torlok2002]

Jacobs said. "If you want to call it a mistake, yes, it was a mistake to probably talk about launching some lawsuit. But the reality is you live, you learn--and you try to do the right thing all the time."




Yeah a corporate mistake, also known as we got caught!


The only reason they dropped the lawsuit is that the general public heard wind of this, and about threw a fit.


btw: this really outraged me, hence my several posts...

[zybch]

I wonder who gave the final authorisation to proceed with the threat of legal matters. I wonder if hes/shes still in the position. Not only have they damaged the reputation of the protection scheme, but because of all the fuss, they've alerted the wider community indirectly on how to bypass the system in the first place.
If they just let it go, only a tiny proportion of people would have found out about the shift thing.

[gjimene2]

I hope the student sues. Just imagine the embarrasment that he has passed through with them basically staining his name as a name of a criminal.

[genesound]

I find all this to be like an open "cold sore" on a wart just inside my fly. They're treating the wrong problem in the first place by putting salve on the sore. Then they want to threaten or beat everybody into submission, but they haven't fixed the wart.

I have no use whatsoever for their "copy protected" media. I never play CDs, and don't, even can't, use the software that they authorize for my purposes. I have non-mainstream software, I need waves, ripped from the original, stored on my system for my "fair use".

[zybch]

I bet all the recording labels really hate 'Fair Use'. It prohibits them fromcracking down as hard as they'd like to, and so resort to scare tactics instead.

I rarely buy audio CDs, the last purchase was over 9 months ago.
DVD Audio is where the money should be sunk. Better quality, video instead of just audio, and lots of potential extra features.
Yes, you can still rip the audio out of a dvd, but to get it to 44.1Khz you loose quality, especially with the higher definition 96Khz 32bit tracks, even though the majority of people wouldn't be able to spot the difference and there is probably a hidden signal kind of thing that could be used that would render any down-sampling to 44.1 of even lower quality.
A premium can be charged for these disks and people ARE willing to pay that bit extra. It certanly costs more to produce a DVD rather than a CD and the market is more limited however in the long term, it'l be some format like DVD that will eventually succeed the CD.

It all comes down to cost. The recording labels all want to make CDs as expensive as possible to sell but as cheap as possible to produce. The profits would probably make the 70odd% they make on DVDs look small by comparison.

[genesound]

24x48k would be fine wit me :D

[cwin]

Originally posted by genesound
24x48k would be fine wit me :D 16bit 44.1khz is fine for me.. although, the 32bit 96khz does sound better :D

[genesound]

Originally posted by cwin
16bit 44.1khz is fine for me.. although, the 32bit 96khz does sound better :D A 5 minute song @ 32x96 would be around 225MB! :eek: