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hondo8671
09-20-2003, 01:19 PM
:( just installed mobo and cpu went fine .but! it wll only run at 1200mhz . i have updated bios,changed cpu freq. from 100 to 133 and it locks up i can only change to 100,133,166, it will run at 100 but not at 133. help
BipolarBill
09-20-2003, 02:00 PM
You can't use PC100 RAM is you want a 133MHz FSB. Are you using PC100 RAM? You need PC133.
gjimene2
09-20-2003, 02:26 PM
looks to me that the ram can't be clocked any higher than 100.
When my g/f had a gate way, I bought her a stick of 256 Crucial pc100.
She has that stick in her K7s5a pro and a 200+0or 2400+ and it runs fine.
I'm trying to get her into DDR, told her that I would get her the ram, but she says that it runs fine.
So why don't you use DDR isntead?:t
hondo8671
09-20-2003, 02:39 PM
tried running 256 ddr ram i can run or change to 133 on ram but when i change to 133 on cpu in bios it locks up on bootup
BipolarBill
09-20-2003, 03:18 PM
Have you cleared CMOS since updating the BIOS?
There is DDR that's not rated 133MHz ou there. What are you using?
What is your power supply like? The K7S5A doesn't like weak PSUs.
hondo8671
09-21-2003, 01:19 AM
:eek: is it ok to clear cmos ? i have tried every thing else , new power supply, on one page on the net alot of users said to remove the plastic sheet under the mobo heatsink and replace w/heatsink compound. this is a brand new board why would they leave this problem ! last resort!!!
fishybawb
09-21-2003, 09:48 AM
Yes, clearing the CMOS is a good idea.
There should *not* be a "plastic sheet" between the heatsink and the CPU - I suspect you're referring to the standard thermal pad, which is OK. At least I hope you are...
hondo8671
09-21-2003, 10:39 AM
i will try the cmos, no they are talking about the motherboard chip heatsink not the cpu sink. they said to gently pull it off and replace the plastic sheet w/ heatsink compound. my problem is why would ecs the board maker not fix this problem at the factory before they send them out to customer.
BipolarBill
09-21-2003, 11:44 AM
I don't get it. If there was a plastic film between the "northbridge" and it's heatsink, how would it stay on?
fishybawb
09-21-2003, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by hondo8671
i will try the cmos, no they are talking about the motherboard chip heatsink not the cpu sink. they said to gently pull it off and replace the plastic sheet w/ heatsink compound. my problem is why would ecs the board maker not fix this problem at the factory before they send them out to customer.
Sounds like bad advice, just ignore them. The only time anyone would consider additional northbridge cooling would be if they were overclocking, which you're not. How did the CMOS clear go?
BipolarBill
09-21-2003, 12:23 PM
When you updated the BIOS, are you sure that you got the latest BIOS? ECS lists them backward - oldest on top and newest on the bottom (at the US site):
http://www.ecsusa.com/downloads/k7s5a_pro.html
In BIOS setup, be sure to keep the DRAM frequency at the same level that your memory is rated at.
hondo8671
09-21-2003, 10:36 PM
cleared cmos set sdram to 133mhz thats the ram im running .but still only running 1200 mhz . the bios is newest ver. 8-20-03. my power supply is brand new 250watt . the shop told me this whould be plenty , and the box said it would handle p4 cpu
BipolarBill
09-21-2003, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by hondo8671
my power supply is brand new 250watt . the shop told me this whould be plenty , and the box said it would handle p4 cpu Um - no. The K7S5A needs at least a 300W PSU and preferrably a 350W.
Understand that there's no free lunch. While the K7S5A costs less, it requires the best memory and power supplies - more than offsetting any initial savings.
hondo8671
09-22-2003, 02:14 AM
well i guess i will try a 350watt pwr sup. its the only thing left!i will try later today.
lptech
09-22-2003, 02:15 AM
hondo8671-
You definitely have an inadequate PSU (power supply unit) as BipolarBill had pointed out. As he had pointed out to you, the cost savings on the motherboard is offset by the fact that you need very good quality memory and power supply unit to run the motherboard! The 250-watt power supply unit is just not going to work on that motherboard because it cannot deliver a clean and stable output current on the 12-volt rail which is critical for that motherboard.
Please read up on the following links to give you a better understanding on power supplies.
http://firingsquad.gamers.com/guides/power_supply/
http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/20021021/index.html
http://www.pcpowercooling.com/maxpc/index_cases.htm
You could calculate what your total PSU wattage usage is by adding up what each individual component requirement is and multiplying it by a factor of 1.8 times to get what your PSU wattage rating should be at. (Use the guide given at the PC Power & Cooling Inc. site). Good luck.
LPTECH
BipolarBill
09-22-2003, 02:26 AM
Make sure that it's a good 350W. Fortron and Sparkle make good ones. The low-line Antecs are reasonable too.
hondo8671
09-22-2003, 02:53 PM
put new 256ddr mem and changed cpu fan w/ better one it finely booted up at 1.6 ghz!
BipolarBill
09-22-2003, 02:59 PM
Great - but keep in mind that the power supply is marginal...
BipolarBill
09-22-2003, 03:02 PM
Here's a good one that's really cheap:
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=0&submit=Go&description=N82E16817104979
It puts out about 360W in actuality.
Bullion
09-22-2003, 07:48 PM
If the system is stable with the 250watt, leave it. I had a duron 1000 @1400 (cheepoman bios) on that same board, on a codegen 250 watt psu that was around from when i had a celeron 466.
Admittedly the duron uses less power than the 1900 but the only test you can use is the stability of the system.
As an aside i was using cheap generic pc133 that was also from the 466 and the cpu hsf was shall we say less then adequete. These boards were deffinity a hit and miss affair IMO, i had a hit but there is always the chance of a miss.
Rugor
09-22-2003, 11:17 PM
Never had a problem with our ECS K7S5A, Duron 850 combo. But first thing we got with it was a new case and 400W PSU. Nice and stable with good power.
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