CD-ROM Rip speeds

[Mr.Goodbytes]

Ok, this is just annoying. I don't normally copy CD's; I make them. So here I am wanting to make a copy of a CD I've made, and I can't go CD to CD on the fly at 8x or more because my CD-ROM only has an audio extraction rate of 7x. It's a 48x Memorex and only rips audio at 7x. Grrrr. Anyway, does anyone know of CD-ROM drives that support significantly higher extraction rates? Should I be looking at Mitsumi and Toshiba drives?

[awforrest]

If your software allows it, put an image or cache or whatever your burning software calls it onto your hard drive and then copy from there. It won't improve the extraction rate but it's much safer than CD to CD, and overall it should be quicker. (hard drive access being faster than CD)

[crazyray]

Your experience is typical of most inexpensive CD-ROMS. And some don't do accurate digital audio extraction at all!

There are web sites where the ability of different drives to do DAE has been tested. I'll look for a link, but you can find them by searching "digital audio extraction" at google.com or altavista.com.

I still use CD Copier for this purpose, using my burner to both rip and burn (ie I copy the CD to the HD first). Works great.

[crazyray]

Check this link for more info on DAE.

http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~psyche/cdda/

BTW, I didn't mean to insult your CD-ROM. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/biggrin.gif

I know that the typical generic Chinese made CD-ROMS give about 7x DAE if they can do it at all. I still see CD-ROMs ~$100 typically best rated for DAE. I'd check things out before I spent that much on a CD-ROM. That's why I just use my burner to read and write. Reliable, easy, fast enough for me.

[Mr.Goodbytes]

The CD-ROM says all is forgiven. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif But I wasn't really irritated at you; I was mad at myself for spending that money when I wasn't aware of what I was getting. Thanks for the info all. And if anyone thinks I should steer clear of the Creative Labs, let me know.

[Barney]

I believe my Asus S500 (50x) can rip audio at 22x and it only costs 50 bucks.

Here's a list of CD-ROM/DVD players with audio extraction rates: http://www.cdspeed2000.com/go.php3?link=daeresults.php3

[crazyray]

Nice move there Barney, THAT was the link I was lookin' for.

[Mr.Goodbytes]

Well, it's kinda goofy. It wasn't exactly cheap when I bought it. Shoulda stayed away from retail. The memorex's used to sell for 50 bucks in stores. There was some rebate goin on, so I picked one up. Now I'm looking at newegg (http://www.newegg.com) and am finding a creative labs 52x for only 28 bucks plus shipping. I checked creative's page and they claim 20x max extraction rate for audio. Sure hope that's accurate.

[Mr.Goodbytes]

Thanks again you guys. And you're right, crazyray, that's the link BABY!!!

[crazyray]

I'm sure you've noticed that a couple of ASUS drives were about the only decent performers with modest prices on that list...

[Ruahrc]

TDK CD-RW drives are advertised with having the fastest and most accurate DAE around. Mine, a 12x10x32 CRW, says it will do up to 32X DAE. I tried this out but didn't get much higher than 12x for track 1 and got about 22-24x on the outer edge of the cd.

They also make a 24x10x40 CDRW with a 40x DAE.

I also have a AOpen Slot loading DVD that does DAE at about 12x all around the disc.

Ruahrc