Barton 2500 stepping

[KillerTofu]

i have a AXQEA AMD 2500+ barton. Is this a good stepping?

[Dracas]

I'm glad you posted, if not - I was going to.

The AQXEA Stepping Greenchip Barton Cores are underclocked XP 3000+'s of the same stepping.

I confirmed this about three seconds ago.

Pre-Clockunlock:
CPU Temp: 86F~92F (Load)
FSB: 333MHz
Speed: 1.826 GHz
Multi: 11.0x
PR Rating: 2500+

Post-Clockunclock
CPU Temp: 90F~110F (Load)
FSB: 400MHz
Speed: 2.101 GHz
Multi: 10.5x
PR Rating: 3000+

It ran stable, at around 104 idle (its 90 in the room).

The only thing that DIDN'T run stable was my TV/FM card from Prolink, because I'm using an nForce Rev.A1 SPP chip that doesn't play entirely nice with the A1 revision at 400MHz (DDR).

B1 and C1 (400 Ultra) shouldn't have any problem with the 400MHz FSB speed, I'll do some more diagnostics and keep posting.

For $87, my little 2500+ does 3000+ 3200+ speeds quite easily...wonder if AMD understood that. Though it proves my theory, because the 2500+ and the 3000+ have the same steppings they're assumarily the same cores, and perform as well too.

But heres the disclaimer: I ain't responsible if you blow your computer up. You are. No one, not me, not sysopt, no one is responsible for your actions accept for you.

That said, here's my current specs:

AMD Athlon XP 2500+ 333 1.82GHz @ 3000+ 400 2.100GHz
Asus A7N8X Deluxe 2.0 Rev.A1 SPP+MCP-T @ 400/400
512MB GeIL GoldDragon PC3200 WLSCSP PC3200 @ 400MHz
Prolink GeForce FX 5600 256MB 4ns @ 356/567

All this powered by an Enermax 350W ATX2.03 PSU, four Coolermaster 80mm case-fans, and a vantec aeroflow.

I'll get to benching on saturday, have school tomorrow. :(

:D :t

[simon13]

waiting for your benchmark results , so!

here are mine :
with barton 2500, A7n8x 2.0, bios 1005c and ti4200 128 :
PC2700 Kingston chip Samsung

11*166=1838
CPUMARK = 178 SiSandra Arithm=5130,9700 SiSandra Multim=9701,10559
3DMark2001 = 11910 , Temperature 39°C (from Asus probe)

12,5*180 = 2255
213, 6299-11853, 3337,12945, 12667 , T=45 Vcore=1,7V


I'm blocked by the PC 2700, Kingston, but it's roadmapped to change it for PC3200 Kingston...

[ComPooTer]

simon dont get the pc3200 value ram stick, i have the asus a7n8x deluxe rev2.0 and my kingston stick will not work at 400 fsb, i can only run it at 333. sure itll work fine on 400 fsb but games and stuff will crash constantly.

[simon13]

How is it possible ?

The Kingston should be certified to run @ 200 Mhz isn't it ?

or it is a bad CPU Overclock / PC3200 combination ?


It would be dramatic to change my PC2700 @180 for 3200 @166 !!!!

166 is the highest you can get ?

[ComPooTer]

because like bpb said when he was helping me out with my problem, the kingston memory wasnt tested on the Nforce2 chipset. and if u look on ebay and stuff it says its listed compatible chipsets example: i865 i875 chipsets


i mean if u want to get the pc3200 stick of kingston ram and learn the hard way its fine by me, but im already warnin ya! im just trying to help :D

[Dracas]

I'm going to go ahead and make a point right now.

Unless its under Asus certified memory list, the chance of a particular model of PC2xxx ram working in the A7N8X Dlx 'right from the start' is pretty slim.

Why?

This particular mainboard, and its accompanying BIOS do the nasty dishonor of arriving with some of the most aggressive memory settings enabled as the Default/failsafe values.

After some expirementing (fighting with a system that won't boot, clearing the EEPROM multiple times, hard booting, cold booting) any system can be wrassled into cooperation.

How? You just have to get into the system ONCE and set it to the right timings, and I DO mean the RIGHT timings. Some gender confusion involving the titles of the timings (2/5-3-4 2T for instance is confusing in particular, because the A7N8X Dlx displays CAS as a "xT" value, 2T/3T, etc..)

People ***** all the time that their RAM doesn't work when most of the people saying that couldn't tell me what the Timings mean to begin with, it took me a while to figure out myself, now that I know, I don't have these problems anymore :p

[$1500-P4 gamer]

Welp, I got Asus A7n8x deluxe AND kingston Value ram pc 2700 cas 2.5 . Runs beutifully. This mem may not be tested but It passes Memtest86 and every other stress I can run on it. Rock solid. Run the TIMINGS the manufacturer listed for the mem-not what you THINK they are. that and if the SPD chips is compat (which I proved it is) THERE is nothing to be incompat. You just have your timings wrong is all.:t

[simon13]

well I have to say I ran into some trouble for my first boot...
but now everything is running perfectly.

the only thing :
I have default "agressive settings" in my bios.
I use pc2700 Kingston (chip Samsung) @180 Mhz...instead of 166

but I read everywhere that people runs their FSB @200Mhz with same cpu/motherboard.. so you can understand i'm a bit jalous!
I though iI could change my pc2700 for 3200 and get a 200 FSB without problem..

last thing : the PC3200 Kingston sold here is with Kingston chip.. not samsung.

[causticVapor]

I second P4. The memory will run at its rated speed and timings. If not, then either the memory is bad, power is not good enough, or the signal strength on the board is too weak. If the latter, increase VDIMM to 2.9v. On most new stcks, you won't be harming the memory chip dies at all, but you will be increasing the signal strength on the board.

[ComPooTer]

well yeah i agree with you guys on 1 part because........i do not know anything about the timings, but i only put things on a 1:1 ratio and thats about it. but ive seen a lot of people running into the same problems as me, a seller on ebay said his KVR400X64C3/512 (same kingston value ram model as me) didnt work with his asus a7n8x deluxe (my board) and said it was incompatible. i will try to some links showing people having problems with the kingston KVR400X64C3/512 on there asus a7n8x deluxes

[ComPooTer]

ok im giving up, i couldnt find any solid problems with the pc3200 stick most people only had the 2700. owell......




http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=143141

bpb says its incompatible


yeah and if u actually read the article, i was really dumb with timings so that was actually my fault,
but wen i made it 1:1 in 400/400 it crashed within 5 minutes of at least any game, but the weird thing was it runs stable at 333/333 and even running memtest on 400 it doesnt crash, strange huh?


and it isnt using the spd, or auto

[simon13]

Here is the short list of certified/recommended RAM (provided by ASUS for A7N8X) for both 333 / 400 FSB.

http://www.asus.com.tw/mb/socketa/a7n8x/A7N8Xqvl.htm

KVR400X64C25/256 Kingston -> GREEN LIGHT !

[ComPooTer]

thats a 256 im using a 512


512----> not a green light :p