Min=??? Max=??? On your own swapfile.

[Rossier]

I'd like to set a swapfile up and have put aside a partation (D) to use for this purpose. On the min & max settings aren't they both set to the same quantity? What happens when you say plug in a second hdd? Does windoze know to use partation E or do you have to tell it?

[Perce]

by default, Windows does do work pretty well /forum/smile.gif But to do the nmanual, keep them on C: drive. It will run a bit quicker /forum/smile.gif For Min/Max settings, manual, You can set them either the same, it works, or have a larger max. I'd recommend 1-2 times the amount of physical memory you have. Good basic settings /forum/smile.gif

As for adding a new drive,default will always be on C: Drive, but if you do put them on D /forum/frown.gifbit slower here), as long as you Partition the new drive as Extended with Logical Drives it will not be affect by the new Logical Drive letters /forum/smile.gif

[rl]

now thats what i call a good use of /forum/smile.gif /forum/smile.gif /forum/smile.gif

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[rl]

double /forum/frown.gif

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[MrEd]

I've set mine up according to this. It doesn't really matter what drive you select for swap file, just pick a faster partition, and put it there.
My Setup= Drives
C:\ Windows, and Microsoft Office2000
D:\ Swap Files(320MB=2x my RAM), Netscape
E:\ Games
F:\ Misc. Programs
G:\ CDROM

http://www.activewin.com/tips/speed_tips_1.shtml

-MrEd
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[socalgal]

I guess it depends where your system likes it best..

Currently my min/max is 200mg with 256mg SDRAM. I monitor with System Monitor and it never gets used, and I'm always running alot of apps at the same time, downloading, etc. I haven't tried monitoring it while game playing, I'm not even sure I could (?)

There's another school of thought that says after a certain amount of RAM it's not really needed, and/or surely not as big as 2.5x your system ram. I would have a 640mg swapfile!

I have a single partition 13G drive. I never really got into partitioning.



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[grandslammer]

Just a quickie here, not my usual long-winded rantings...

Anyway, if I were you, I wouldn't make an extra partition for my swap file. By using one partition, and using either norton speed disk or nuts and bolts or equivalent, you can "send" your swap file to the outermost tracks on your hard drive. By using the outermost tracks, you are "accelerating" it. This section travels at a faster rate than inner tracks. Look at a dinner plate, and slowly spin it around a central point. The outer edge occupies a greater area, but it passes in the same amount of time as the smaller inner section. So, in essence, that area moves at a greater speed. Hence, faster reads/writes, and access to data.

By using one of the above mentioned utilities, just specify "optimize swap file" (usually in the advanced sections.)

As far as the size, most people report their computers not using more than 200mb of swap file, so much more than that would most likely not be used, no matter how much ram you had...

So, that's my .02 worth, but it seems to work for me.

Either way, Good Luck In All..

Mike P.

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[Spacetop_]

OK, people, I'll let you in on a little secret: I've screwed around with that swap file for a while..

True: It is good to keep swap file on the same drive where windows is.

Even more true: If you have a faster hard drive in your system than your boot drive, pit swap file on that drive on primary partition, it will help.

Min/Max stuff: Make it double your RAM for both Min AND Max, because when you set it for automatic, the size of the file is fluctuating, hence taking up any precious extra CPU time. When it is fixed size, there is nothing to resize, thus saving the unneeded waste of processor work. And your hard drive will not be cranking as much...

[Spacetop_]

OK, people, I'll let you in on a little secret: I've screwed around with that swap file for a while..

True: It is good to keep swap file on the same drive where windows is.

Even more true: If you have a faster hard drive in your system than your boot drive, pit swap file on that drive on primary partition, it will help.

Min/Max stuff: Make it double your RAM for both Min AND Max, because when you set it for automatic, the size of the file is fluctuating, hence taking up any precious extra CPU time. When it is fixed size, there is nothing to resize, thus saving the unneeded waste of processor work. And your hard drive will not be cranking as much...

[Rookie]

I was waiting for a swap file discussion, I read and read opposing viewpoints. Look here:
http://epsilon.silicon.net.my/adrian/
On the left side where it says Rojack, choose Speed Demonz page. Choose *optimizing swap file*.
I like what the Norton guy said on (I think) page 9,10, & 11. (scroll down to links for pages).
This works real good for me- I also choose Speed disk options- and select which folder I want placed at the begining of the disk, and even which programs I want placed first.
I'm using norton utilites 3.0 with several live updates...Dont know about any one else-there are as many opinions as there are *tweakers*.
As we speak I'm using my Dads pent120 64m edo.
And the swap file stuff made it much faster.
Do like socalgal says and monitor your own use of it with System Monitor before you choose a size. Also puting it on a separate drive on a separate ide channel (assuming both drives benchmark at comparable speeds) seems to really speed things up for me.
Hope that didnt muddy the waters too much, but I'd like to know what the more learned ones here think...
Rookie

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[GB]

Rossier:
If you want your Win9x stable- leave Win to manage swap file.
If you want to play with your PC no matter what happens- best I could suggest to monitor swap file use with(NO NORTON UTILITIES!!!) Win9x SysMonitor while do doing some "heavy" work- like scanning etc.
But setting up your own file you may run into some problems.
I red a lot about-finally I decided to let win98 manage swap file.
Most you can gain ~about 10% in speed, if you won't get any errror messages.
My bottom line-It isn't worth.

[Rossier]

Well, I must be unlucky! I'm running 256 of Enhanced Systems Memory PC133mhz rated at 4.5 to 5.0ns and after putting the settings in, Windoze 95b won't turn loose of the "virtual memory".

Set it up on D:\drive with 549mb available Min=500 Max=500.

[Rookie]

Rossier, what do you mean windows wont turn it loose? Did you select *let me specify*...in the performance tab of System Propreties and it wont switch back? Not sure what you mean by that, but look into sysedit- on the sysini page, scroll down to pagingfilesize= blah, blah
edit, save and reboot...hope thats what you meant, ignore if not...
Rookie

[Rookie]

Rossier, what do you mean windows wont turn it loose? Did you select *let me specify*...in the performance tab of System Propreties and it wont switch back? Not sure what you mean by that, but look into sysedit- on the sysini page, scroll down to pagingfilesize= blah, blah
edit, save and reboot...hope thats what you meant, ignore if not...
Rookie

[RobRich]

He probably tried to the setting to disble virtual memory. Win9x will not function properly without virtual memory, even if you had a gig of ram. The kernel core requires it to properly manage the memory interface, even if it doesn't use any of the swapfile.