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SirFrank
09-09-2003, 09:28 PM
I cant find an article Ive seen about saving Wu's to a disk to be put on another computer. Anyone know anything about this? Thanks!

RampageIII
09-09-2003, 10:31 PM
If you're using SetiHide you'll find a import/export feature in the cache section.:t

SirFrank
09-10-2003, 12:06 PM
I tried that originally but couldnt figure it out. Could it be because of Win Xp?:confused:

RampageIII
09-10-2003, 05:35 PM
I have Win98 so I'm not sure, but it should work.

What I have done:

Put empty floppy disk in drive

Select the cache/s you want to download and press export(be sure the floppy drive is selected)

To import put the floppy in the machine you want

Select the floppy drive and press import(this assumes the cache/s are all empty)

That should do it :)

SirFrank
09-10-2003, 06:00 PM
Im getting a cache but it shows NA. Ill try it on a 98 machine and see what happens. Ill just have to walk a little bit further!:(

RampageIII
09-10-2003, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by SirFrank
Im getting a cache but it shows NA. Ill try it on a 98 machine and see what happens. Ill just have to walk a little bit further!:(

Initially it will show a N/A, but a popup box should appear stating the import was successful. Click OK and the import should be complete.

SirFrank
09-10-2003, 09:53 PM
I tried it on a 98 machine and still the same. It says its unconfigured as well as the NA. How do I get the caches into it?
Im missing something here and cant catch it.

RampageIII
09-11-2003, 08:08 AM
Let's take it back

You have setihide running on a machine with internet access, that has downloaded work units from the seti server.

You have an empty floppy in the a: drive

Select one or more caches and export them to the a: drive (the cache folders will refill themselves if you have online connection)

Check the floppy to see if there is a list of cache folders

Look in the folders to see if there are files in them, these are *.sah file types

If all is well at this point, take the floppy out and transfer it to the machine that you want the caches uploaded on

Put the floppy in the a: drive, open setihide, go to the cache section and find the import button

Be sure the a: drive is selected, and local cache is the destination

Click import

If there are no cache folders on the machine setihide adds them automatically

If there are folders that are empty (I'm assuming they'll be filled, but not really sure) otherwise I would delete empty folders, before uploading, by going to the setihide folder in explorer and deleting the cache folders there.

Once the import procedure is done you should get a confirmation, if not then check to see that you can access the a: drive

If this doesn't help: Beyond a floppy or drive problem I don't know what else it could be
Good luck
:)

SirFrank
09-11-2003, 12:51 PM
Select one or more caches
The cache shows up but its empty and says non exportable. The problem is not export or import per-say, but the lack of a data set showing up. Ill fool around with it some more. Thanks!

RampageIII
09-11-2003, 04:30 PM
Are there files to be downloaded? I don't understand. Check in Explorer folders. If work units have been downloaded from the seti@home server there have to be files. :confused:

RampageIII
09-11-2003, 05:28 PM
When importing the cache are you highlighting the wu?

SirFrank
09-11-2003, 11:55 PM
When importing the cache are you highlighting the wu?
Yes Ive been doing that. Ive tried copying the Work- unit.sah from the Dir to a floppy but it still says unconfig.empty. I must be doing something out of order. :eek:

RampageIII
09-12-2003, 09:26 AM
If you have files like these attached on the floppy there's no reason I can think you can't make the transfer. Keep trying, this is a puzzlement.

SirFrank
09-12-2003, 02:16 PM
If you have files like these
I only copied the work file. Were the files shown on the Jpg transfered by you or the seti program? Also what do I need on the other computer to run the work units?

Scavenger7
09-12-2003, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by SirFrank

I only copied the work file. Were the files shown on the Jpg transfered by you or the seti program?


Setihide was used to export the files..


Also what do I need on the other computer to run the work units?


You will need the command line client and setihide..and then use setihide to import.

RampageIII
09-12-2003, 05:40 PM
Guess that would be helpful.

It is imperative that both machines be running the same Client and SetiHide combo.

This won't work with the Seti@home GUI screensaver.:x

SirFrank
09-12-2003, 10:14 PM
same Client and SetiHide combo.
I figured that would be the case anyway. Im not using the Gui. I think the problem is not downloading from seti right. Sooner or later!

Scavenger7
09-13-2003, 08:16 AM
Maybe if you posted a pic of the problem, we can get a better idea of your situation..

RampageIII
09-13-2003, 11:41 AM
One other thought comes to mind... Which DOS client are you running? 3.03 or 3.08?

3.08 could be a problem.

SirFrank
09-13-2003, 05:04 PM
Im using 3.08.

RampageIII
09-13-2003, 07:16 PM
Go to the team site Links and download 3.03, delete what you have and start with a fresh install of 3.03 and SetiHide.

Look for this line:
The file named '3.03 i386-winnt-cmdline.exe' to use with SetiHide.(Hosted at setieam)

That should get you back in business.

Scavenger7
09-14-2003, 09:20 AM
Here is the file Rampage mentioned.


http://www.setiteam.com/setiathome-3.03.i386-winnt-cmdline.exe

RampageIII
09-15-2003, 04:29 PM
EDIT: For those wishing to get a simpler setup procedure skip to Scavenger 7's explanation later in this thread.



Just wondering, if the client is being configured on a comp without internet, how would it be able to configure files in the first place.

Maybe what you need to do is configure the new client on the comp that has access by placing it in a new folder and starting the client.(Don't have the existing client and sethide running)

Once it has taken you through the initialization there will be files in the folder.

Take all of that and transfer it to the other comp.

Then you can start SetiHide and it should start working on the work unit.

The import/export procedure should work as described after that.

Yes?

SirFrank
09-15-2003, 09:15 PM
Just wondering, if the client is being configured on a comp without internet, how would it be able to configure files in the first place.
I did copy the zip files for both the Cmdline and Setihide then transferred them to the other computer. Then I copied the Work unit to it. It still doesnt work on my computer that has access though. I will try the above on my other computer and see what happens!

RampageIII
09-15-2003, 10:04 PM
EDIT: These steps are not necessary if you copy the user_info as explained in Scavenger 7's post later in this thread.


Here's the deal:

You must start the dos client on the comp with internet access first. This will allow the client ti initiate and download a work unit.

Close the dos window and go to the folder. There will be a list of files. (see image)

Put all those files and the client (approx 350k) on the floppy.

Upload the files, from the floppy, to the empty SETI folder on the other computer.

Put SetiHide in the same folder and start it. You'll get a confirmation box for success.

Now start SetiHide and it should open and start crunching.

I hope that explains it :t

RampageIII
09-15-2003, 10:32 PM
Before SetiHide is started

RampageIII
09-15-2003, 10:32 PM
After SetiHide is started

SirFrank
09-16-2003, 12:42 AM
Doesnt look right to me. Also if you have to have the 3.03 it wont work for me. It took over ten minutes to download 90k.
I went back to 3.08. I also noticed that Setihide would create its own folder. It never was in my seti folder until I moved it there. It shows the cache but its inactive. Heres what it looks like.

SirFrank
09-16-2003, 01:00 AM
Here

RampageIII
09-16-2003, 07:28 AM
Think we're beating a dead horse here, Frank.


I'm well aware that setihide is unzipped to it's own folder and you have to move setihide.exe file to the seti folder.

Are you doing everything as described? There is no reason this doesn't work. I think it's quite clear. If you're not getting the results that are pictured here I don't know what to say.

Open setihide > Settings > Seti client program name - If it is "undefined" type in the client name (as shown in Scavenger7's reply on the first page this thread (http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=134765) )

If that doesn't work, type in the full path to the commndline client.

Scavenger7
09-16-2003, 08:35 AM
3.08 has some minor issues with seti hide some times.. thats why we suggested 3.03.. the only diff between the 2 is the security update in 3.08, and 3.08 seems to crunch units a little bit slower...


i got 3.08 to work by entering it manually... then restart setihide.

Scavenger7
09-16-2003, 09:28 AM
Here is what i did....

PC 1: = no internet connection

I made a dir called seti2.

I put the client in c:\seti2

I put setihide in c:\seti2

i Started setihide and then closed it.. (you will notice it made some sub_folders)

PC 2: = internet connection

I then went to a computer that is running seti.(has internet connection) and copied the User_info.sah file to a disk. (found in the c:\????\files) ???? = what ever you named the seti dir.


PC 1: = no internet connection

I put the User_Info.sah file i copied into c:\seti2\files

PC 2: = internet connection

Now go into setihide/caches select a wu and export.. (make sure the floppy disk is in there.)

PC 1: = no internet connection

Now start setihide.. go into cache and select import.(this will bring up another screen. select the wu and hit ok.

now restart setihide-- this should get you going.. if not where it says inactive (on main screen)- select start client hidden...

SirFrank
09-17-2003, 04:46 PM
Think we're beating a dead horse here, Frank
Thats Ok, I have 5 more out in my Pasture!:D
Ok I got the Cmdline working and it says its working. The status shows active in setihide. But in the setihide window it shows no "Information On work unit" Will that matter?
Never mind it doesnt!
Someone was saying that 3.03 is faster. Is it faster than Setidriver on high priority using 3.08?

RampageIII
09-17-2003, 08:08 PM
Well, is it working or not!?:eek:

If you're working on a unit the information will be highlighted and will show the Sky Map coordinates when clicked.

I don't use SetiDriver, but Logan does. If 3.08 is working for you stick with it for a bit til you think you've got it worked out.

If you have SetiHide on other comps you certainly must know what it looks like when it's running properly.

Setting the priority to high won't make much difference except maybe for app performance being slowed.

SirFrank
09-17-2003, 09:14 PM
Well, is it working or not!?
Yes!
will show the Sky Map coordinates when clicked.
It doesnt for me but thats Ok too.
Im not using setihide on my other computers except for the one to transfer Wu's. But I only use that for transferring to the other computer thats not on the net.
Setting the priority to high won't make much difference
Maybe its me, but I thought it was making a difference.
Back to 3.03
If this version is faster (Is it?) why did it take so long to download the data? It was super slow when I tried it out. I do want to go as fast as I can on the Wu's. If the 3.03 is the way to go then Ill use it as long as it doesnt take a half hour to download a Wu.
BTW Thanks Scavenger7:)

RampageIII
09-17-2003, 10:23 PM
Not sure why you had trouble downloading with 3.03 unless the seti server was having a hiccup at the time. I've used that client right along without problems. 3.03 is a bit faster than 3.08 for crunching.

SirFrank
09-17-2003, 10:52 PM
Illl try the 3.03 as soon as I can to check it out again. I checked out your pic. The infos not showing on mine but at least its working. Thanks for everything Rampage. I know Ill be back asking more questions!!:D

RampageIII
09-18-2003, 03:12 AM
Well, keep us posted. I'd be interested to know how you do a work unit without the info being shown.:confused:

Scavenger7
09-18-2003, 08:48 AM
SirFrank- Good to hear that you got it going.... http://smiles.ru/coll/messer/msn-cool.gif

SirFrank
09-18-2003, 09:21 PM
I'd be interested to know how you do a work unit without the info being shown.
I dont have a clue. I guess thats computers for ya!:eek:

mcool61
09-25-2003, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by Scavenger7
Here is what i did....

PC 1: = no internet connection

I made a dir called seti2.

I put the client in c:\seti2

I put setihide in c:\seti2

i Started setihide and then closed it.. (you will notice it made some sub_folders)

PC 2: = internet connection

I then went to a computer that is running seti.(has internet connection) and copied the User_info.sah file to a disk. (found in the c:\????\files) ???? = what ever you named the seti dir.

PC 1: = no internet connection

I put the User_Info.sah file i copied into c:\seti2\files

PC 2: = internet connection

Now go into setihide/caches select a wu and export.. (make sure the floppy disk is in there.)

PC 1: = no internet connection

Now start setihide.. go into cache and select import.(this will bring up another screen. select the wu and hit ok.

now restart setihide-- this should get you going.. if not where it says inactive (on main screen)- select start client hidden...

You didn't download a wu with the command line before you put it on the no internet computer? This worked? I have the 3.03 version but don't know how to get it running on a comp w/o internet.

Scavenger7
09-26-2003, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by mcool61

You didn't download a wu with the command line before you put it on the no internet computer?

Thats correct. SirFrank had seti running on another computer that was connected to the internet, so he exported wu's from that computer and imported to the non connected comp.

This worked?

Yes.

I have the 3.03 version but don't know how to get it running on a comp w/o internet.

Follow the directions.

mcool61
09-26-2003, 05:16 PM
I think I should start my own thread instead of hijacking someone elses. I'm still having trouble getting it going.

http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=146890