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scourge
07-17-2001, 09:13 AM
If you own a SS7 system and IF your motherboard will support it and you can't afford a real upgrade, I recommend getting a K6-2+ chip. www.tigerdirect.com (http://www.tigerdirect.com) has the K6-2+(450) for $34.99. I have not encountered one that won't do 550 with standard HSF. Other than a K6-3+ (try finding one of those), it's simply the fatest chip you can get for SS7.
K6-2 (no cache) - remember the original celerons with no cache
K6-2+ (128k cache)
K6-3+ (256k cache) - I have one these
Clock for clock, the + chips are about 10% to 20% faster than the regular K6-2.
Best case example:
K6-2+ @550 ~ K6-2 @660.
Ballastboss
07-17-2001, 09:47 AM
Hard to beat that.If your MB can handle 2.0-2.1 volts and you want to see what the socket7 can really do, the k6+ models are the only way to go! Fun,fast and cheap.I haven't heard of any that won't do at lease 600mhz.
Richard_Cranium72
07-17-2001, 09:51 AM
I too enjoy build the Socket 7 series.
However, it is not too popular with the cheap Duron series that is now available.
you and I both know that there are lots of users with S7 boards(100mhz FSB)that are interested in more performance and cannot afford to ashcan the entire system for a new unit.
I'm about to assemble a couple of K6-3+ 450 units with Soyo SY-5SSm/5 mobo's capable of 100,103,112,124,124 & 133mhz FSB, I'm not sure if the k6-3+ CPU's can be used on my mobo's
SIS-530 Chipset
Min core voltage is 2.0 so I think I can use them in that area anyway.
Hopefully a BIOS upgrade is not mandatory.
Got a link or idea if these will work with my 3+ CPU's ?
DrVette
Ballastboss
07-17-2001, 01:54 PM
Yes it will work according to Soyo:
Introduction SY-5SSM & SY-5SSM/5 V1.1
SY-5SSM & SY-5SSM/5 V1.1 PLATFORM FEATURES
Board Size 4-layer PCB, 22x24.4cm(8.7” x9.6” ), MICRO-ATX
Form Factor
Socket 7 Socket for Pentium ® class CPUs
with host bus frequency of 66/100MH; Supports:
Ø Intel Pentium ® Processors P54C/P55C (100-
233MHz)
Ø Cyrix 6x86™ (PR166+-PR200+),
Cyrix 6x86 MX™ (PR166-PR266) and Cyrix M
II™ (300~433)
Ø AMD K5™ (PR100-PR166), and AMD K6™
(166-300)
and AMD K6™-2 (266~533)
and AMD K6-2+ 450
And AMD K6Ô-III (400/450)
Ø IDT X86 CPU™ C6 (200/225)
IDT X86 CPUÔ 2 (200/225/233/266/300)
Ø Rise mP6 PR266
Chipset SiS530 PCI/AGP Bus Chipset
3D AGP accelerator integrated
ATX Power 20-pin Male Connector
CPUFAN 3-pin CPU Cooling Fan Connector
CHAFAN 3-pin Chassis Cooling Fan Connector
Memory DIMM Bank (DIMM1 & DIMM2 & DIMM3)
Ø 168-pin Unbuffered SDRAM DIMM Module
Ø Supports 8~256MB DIMM in each Bank
Ø Supports ECC configuration
BIOS System BIOS built-in, Award BIOS
Ø APM, ACPI and "Plug-and-Play" function
Ø Supports multiple-boot function
PCI Slots 3 x 32-bit Bus Mastering Slots
1 x 32-bit Bus Slaving Slots
ISA Slots 1 x 16-bit ISA Slots
IDE1, IDE2 2 x 40-pin Bus Mastering E-IDE/ATAPI Ports
Ø IDE1: Primary IDE Device Connector
Ø IDE2: Secondary IDE Device Connector
Ø Supports Ultra DMA 33/66
http://www.soyo.com.tw/
I own several Soyo socket7 boards and have nocomplaints.
I had ss7 mobo with via chipset, I was told in the store that it would have tremendous problems with tnt2 (so I didn't get one), instead they recommended tnt1 which should've worked fine, unfortunately it's agp slot was pretty bad, probably due to the version 1.0 of it. Here in Fi you can get a 700duron cheaper than k6-II500. But I agree, for a performance boost those are nice, for modern system, they're nothing.
All I can remember from my ss7 times that it had such incompability issues that I couldn't bear. I had the system for two years, didn't do much gaming.
Perhaps the fact that I'm using such old adapter cards now is that the system functions like a dream (aureal vortex superquad digital, 3com xl series lan-card, and the same old asus tnt3400vivo).
.M
Etruscan
07-17-2001, 11:49 PM
Hi scourge:
Have you heard anything about the K6-II 475+ chips that Tiger Direct has up as well as the 450+? Are the 475+ chips as good an OC chip as the 450+. They want $5.00 more for the 475+.
Rhino302
07-18-2001, 12:05 AM
The regular K6-2 uses the cache on the Mobo, and I thought the original Celeron HAD NO L2 CACHE WHATSOEVER....so the K6-2 isn't that bad
scourge
07-18-2001, 02:34 PM
Etruscan
Save your $5. Either one will do 550 MHz and possibly as high as 600 MHz. I highly doubt the 475 is any better at overclocking than the 450.
And I never said the K6-2 was a bad chip. It certainly whooped the original Celeron, but for the best SS7 performance, you need a K6-2/3+ chip.
[This message has been edited by scourge (edited 07-18-2001).]
Spanky
07-18-2001, 05:37 PM
I have a brand new asus P5A ss7 sitting around. If I could find a decently priced K-6 chip I would slap it in. But Around here they are more expensive then the cheapest Durons. It blows my mind.
If anyone finds a lead on really cheap K6s let me know.
35 does sound good except I'm in Canada. Its certainly more then a duron.
Would a fast k6-2 chip be fast enough for most emulation games? For one of those emulation boxes?
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