War On Terrorism

[j.m@talk]

Well great, now the buggers are comming in from friendly countries, terrorising & molesting our children, with a bit of kidnapping to boot :mad:

We've recently taken delivery of this individual & he is currently on trial. He met her in a chat room, thought she was 18, arrived here & met up wit the girl......... & wow she turns out to be 12 :eek:
So what does he do? takes her off to some other European desitnation for???????????????? well you tell me....... :mad:

Option 1. Surgical castration & deportment.
Option 2. All charges to be dropped & this individual must make his way home via public transport....... (Preferable in my opinion, however I don't rate his his chances, its a bit rough in the UK when the majority of the population feel like disemboweling ya) :mad:

[cbh]

Is that a kidnapping or rape or both?

:eek:

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Its a kidnap/abduction charge theyve got him for, though knowing the stae of the courts over here he'll probably get let off

--Jakk:t

[j.m@talk]

There is another charge too...... I can't remember what they are callin' it, but it isn't a pastime for a 12yr old lil girl thats for sure :mad:

[j.m@talk]

I'm supprised (not) so few comments................... :rolleyes:

Perhaps the Canadia prime minister was correct :p

[mireland]

I guess this is kinda a touchy topic I guess..Personally I think the guy should get death by tree shreader!:mad:

[j.m@talk]

Too frikkin' true he does :mad:

& there was me trying my best to be delicate :-@

[Bovon]

Originally posted by j.m@talk21.com
There is another charge too...... I can't remember what they are callin' it, I donno what they refer to it in the UK, but in the U.S. fooling around with a girl that young is called statutory rape!

[Black Beard]

Originally posted by j.m@talk21.com
Well great, now the buggers are comming in from friendly countries, terrorising & molesting our children, with a bit of kidnapping to boot :mad

Excuse me if I sound a bit on the thick side but what is the connection between the subject of your post and terrorism?

[j.m@talk]

Originally posted by Black Beard


Excuse me if I sound a bit on the thick side but what is the connection between the subject of your post and terrorism?

Well terrorists come in many shapes & forms, this one is a particularly despicable type, & you should be watching the news :rolleyes:

[Black Beard]

Originally posted by j.m@talk21.com


Well terrorists come in many shapes & forms, this one is a particularly despicable type, & you should be watching the news :rolleyes:

Well far be it for me to make assumptions but I think one can assume you are referring to the ex.US soldier who chatted up a 12 year English girl over the internet then made arrangements to meet with her and travel Europe.

In English Law, which correct me if I am wrong US law is based on, you are innocent until proven guilty. Strikes me you would string up anyone who fits the bill.

If this US soldier is as despicable as you say and even if that can be proven I still do not think that makes him a terrorist.

[j.m@talk]

Your not the brightest chocolate in the box are you :rolleyes:

[mireland]

Originally posted by j.m@talk21.com
Your not the brightest chocolate in the box are you :rolleyes:

LMAO!

though to be honest, I've ben told I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed..:(

http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/urinate.gif

[Ol'Tunzafun]

The former US Marine who ran off with a 12-year-old British girl “did not touch her” and was no longer with her, his family claimed last night.

Toby Studabaker phoned his sister-in-law in Michigan and told her that he was “very very mad” to have been “deceived” by Shevaun Pennington, who he claimed told him she was 19 during their internet romance.

According to Leo Studabaker, Toby's brother, the former Marine had since left the schoolgirl to return to her home and wanted to returned to America himself.

Leo told BBC News 24: “He did not touch her. She [Shevaun] has written a letter stating that fact and has signed it. He has that letter with him.”

Sherry Studabaker, Toby's sister-in-law, said that she believed Toby was in contact with the FBI. She added: "He is not happy that she lied about her age. She told him that he was 19 said that she was in college. He must have found out about [her age] today."

The search for the pair was thrown into confusion today with French and British police forces openly contradicting each other.

French police said that Shevaun did arrive at Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris on Saturday but flew back to Liverpool within three hours.

But Greater Manchester Police (GMP) have doubted the claim and easyJet, the airline which was supposed to have flown her back from the UK, said they had no record of her being on one of their flights.

French police said earlier that Shevaun and Toby Studabaker, 31, had flown to France after denying earlier British police reports that they had done so.

The French move came after a check of airport records revealed that an S Pennington took easyJet Flight 7056 back to Liverpool on 10.45pm on Saturday evening.

The revelations took Manchester Police by surprise. A clearly irate Superintendent Peter Mason said that the claim by French police about Shevaun was "very, very dubious".

He said: "This S Pennington flew back in the company of five other people and all flights were pre-booked." France would remain the focus of their investigation and officers from the GMP have flown to the country tonight to liase with their French colleagues, he added.

EasyJet said that it would not have been possible for a 12-year-old to fly back to Britain unaccompanied by an adult and there is no record of Studabaker being on the flight.

An airline spokesman said that he could not comment on the passenger manifest, but said that easyJet stood by the comments from Manchester police.

[Black Beard]

Originally posted by j.m@talk21.com
Your not the brightest chocolate in the box are you :rolleyes:

Please forgive me for sounding so dumb but could you elaborate as your obvious wisdom leaves me numb with admiration of your superior wit.

Art thou not from the north of old England, Hartlepool to be precise, a place renowned throughout the kingdom for the kind of wisdom you have shown in your posts, when they hung a monkey for being a French spy.

:)

[j.m@talk]

Originally posted by Black Beard


Please forgive me for sounding so dumb but could you elaborate as your obvious wisdom leaves me numb with admiration of your superior wit.

Art thou not from the north of old England, Hartlepool to be precise, a place renowned throughout the kingdom for the kind of wisdom you have shown in your posts, when they hung a monkey for being a French spy.

:)

Err No I'm not hailing from Hartlepool, thats someone else, so I shall take your thought directly to the bin.

I take this particular kind of crime most seriously. I am not a hang draw & Quarter them kind of character by any stretch of the immagination, I just believe that kids should be allowed to be kids, without wit or hinderance to their innocence.

Now I understand that many people have a multple of thoughts on this particular subject. However my friend I find your take on this area slightly disconcerting, Please do respond :rolleyes:

[Billforce]

I concur with your observations about protecting children, in particular little girls....but what in the sam hill does this have to do with terrorism or am I missing something? My mind draws up the concept of an Arab with a bomb, not some ex G.I. with an E................

[FrnchDp]

Originally posted by Billforce
...but what in the sam hill does this have to do with terrorism or am I missing something? My mind draws up the concept of an Arab with a bomb, not some ex G.I. with an E................

I have to say that whether or not child kidnapping is terrorism (although any child that is forcefully removed from his loved ones and put through god only know what, must be terrorised), your view on terrorists is rather .. racist !?

Point of fact, I remember some time not so long ago in Oklahoma City, two white boys parking their van in front of some building....

Classifying terrorists as Arabs is a bit close-minded IMO... I'm pretty sure there are plenty of people out in the world who have horrible stories about the US military..

Now, before I get my rear-end handed to me by Bill, I want to make clear that, since I don't know you Bill, I am in no way putting you down or trying to insult you.. just responding to the statement you made with my own personnal opinion..

:D

[Billforce]

OH! PARDON ME...I forgot we musn't profile. Just because the world trade center was bombed by young ARABS...9/11 aircraft were flown by young ARABS...the U.S.S. Cole was bombed by young ARABS. ...three U.S. Embassy's bombed by young ARABS...but we musn't profile, must we.

The analogy was simply ONE example of a terrorist, not a personal diatribe against Arabs or Arab nations. Terrorist come in many forms and from many nations i.e. India, Bali, Israel and so on......but not to many ex U.S. Marines stalking a 12 year old girl. Hardly labeled a TERRORIST.

[FrnchDp]

OH! PARDON ME...I forgot we musn't profile. Just because the world trade center was bombed by young ARABS...9/11 aircraft were flown by young ARABS...the U.S.S. Cole was bombed by young ARABS. ...three U.S. Embassy's bombed by young ARABS...but we musn't profile, must we.

The problem with profiling is that you forget to look at other possibilities of potential threats.. I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure the IRA members aren't Arabs, yet they have committed some terrorist acts in their past. This goes for pretty much any other country in the world that have civil unrest, including many African countries, South American countries (you made mention of Columbia on some other post), Europe, Russia, Asia.....

Let's face it, there are terrorists in just about every country on Earth, but I find it hard to believe that they're all Arabs. It just so happens that recently, the terrorism attacks on US interests have come from a particular Arab group.

If you believe in profiling, then not only must you look upon all Arabs as potential terrrists, I'm sure you view most African Americans as drug dealers or gang members, Latin Americans must be illegal aliens, and the French must all smell.....

If you profile one, you must profile all.. and that's a crappy way to go through life, eyeing everybody suspicioulsy.


...but not to many ex U.S. Marines stalking a 12 year old girl. Hardly labeled a TERRORIST.

Agreed... in this case. But, with all the due respect to the military personnel for the amazing job they do, let us not live in a world where we believe that the US army has never done anything wrong..

People must learn to live with an open mind, and realize that what we see on TV or read in the paper isn't necessarily the entire truth.


Again Bill, this isn't a personnal attack on your being or beliefs, I respect both.. Just my own opinion, and you don't have to agree.. Besides, it's pretty difficult to express exactly what we think, let alone on a post with 4 lines...

Cheers