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zybch
08-12-2003, 09:22 PM
Check this out. Its surprising that it hasn't been done before.

http://www.spodesabode.com/content/article/K7SOM/1

Someone Stupid
08-13-2003, 04:15 AM
Wait, did they say it would be good for even the most demanding workstation task. A 1.2 gig duron? :lol:

zybch
08-13-2003, 04:27 AM
I think by 'workstation' they mean 'office PC', not graphics workstation.
A Duron 1200 is certanly fast enough for web browsing, word processing etc...

Peter M
08-13-2003, 04:59 AM
This isn't "surface mount", it is still through-hole. It's just not in a socket.

It has been done before - by ECS/PC-Chips. Before K7SOM aka M810D, they had K7SEM aka M810 w/ onboard Duron, there's K7VMM aka M825 w/ onboard Duron, and they've done it for years using M787+ and M787 boards w/ onboard VIA C3.

Their strategy is to eat through leftover stock of otherwise un-marketable slightly outdated CPUs, put them on an all-in-one board design of theirs, and bring that to market at a rock bottom price.

Someone Stupid
08-13-2003, 05:15 AM
Hell, one can keep a 1.2 duron busy with just a nice and large spreadsheet... that isn't high end workstation... that's entry level if it's doing standard issue spreadsheets and other office apps.

I agree with peter, they probably have tons of durons left, so they are just trying to dump them however possible to at least get some cash for them... better than pitching them

zybch
08-13-2003, 07:07 AM
I'd love to see that spreadsheet!

Peter M
08-13-2003, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by Someone Stupid I agree with peter, they probably have tons of durons left, so they are just trying to dump them however possible to at least get some cash for them... better than pitching them [/B]

Yes ... ECS/PC-Chips have been eating through 667 and 733 MHz VIA C3 stock, and the onboard Duron series started out with 850 MHz units and has gradually increased through 900, 950, 1000, 1100 to 1200 MHz now. Given the size of the ECS group of companies, I'm sure they got one hell of a bargain when they approached VIA and AMD: "We need your old CPUs for bargain all-in-ones." - "OK, how many?" - "All of them."

Same with their Desknotes - their current A907 bargain model uses a 533 MHz Transmeta CPU, the previous A900 used a slow VIA C3 too.