Best platform for Photoshop.....

[otheos]

Now here we go again....

This review (http://www.xbitlabs.com/cpu/photoshop-platform/) at Xbit labs will solve all your questions.

EDIT: Link fixed. Thans for the tip.

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[OuTpaTienT]

When you're surfing otheos, you need to pay attention to your address bar. Judging by the link you posted, you were being trailed by some ad company that probably followed you from link to link just tagging along and keeping track of where ya go.

Here's the real link to that Photoshop platform review:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/cpu/photoshop-platform/

[NDD]

Real surprise for me. Althought I use PhotoShop rarely, I always thought that Intel based platforms are far better, due to huge SSE optimization Adobe did. Well, I guess I was wrong. Shame on me - few months ago I adviced some friend of mine (graphic artist) to go for P4, coz he uses PhotoShop most of times. I betrayed on AMD !!! http://www.sysopt.com/forum/frown.gif

When desktop Athlon4 with 3DNow! PRO (full set of SSE commands) is out, it will become true PhotoShop King (if SSE implementation would be as good as in P3/P4).

Best Regards ...

[NDC]

Sheesh! It looks like P3 1Ghz hold its ground despite the the lower clock speed compared to the P4 1.4Ghz and that P3 was using PC-133 Vs. P4's PC800 RDRAM. As for Rotate Canvas & Convert to Other Color Systems, the P3 1Ghz beats both P4's 1.4Ghz and 1.7Ghz.

As for the AMD Vs. Intel for Photoshop, these benchmarks are very surprising! All the systems I've benchmarked Photoshop, Intel P3 was faster than AMD processors at the same clockspeed.

What I'm very curious about is, why didn't they do a benchmark test for Intel Pentium 3 1Ghz Vs. AMD 1Ghz...

Oh, well. Anyhow, I'm really looking forward to AMD4's w/SSE performance! Is there an AMD4 dual system available now?

[otheos]

The new MP athlons are SSE enabled. With MSI's board out next month at $250, I think it's a sweet deal for 2x1.2MP's. And with todays DDR memory prices, you can load it with 1G RAM at little cost since the new MSI does NOT need ECC

[NDC]

Intel Pentium 3 processors Vs. AMD 1Ghz seem to show different results than AMD Vs. Intel Pentium 4? Hmmmmm... I don't see a promising future for the Intel Pentium 4's for running Photoshop...

http://www.hardware.fr/html/articles/lire.php3?article=82&page=3

http://www.inqst.com/articles/athlonddr/athlonddrarticle.htm

http://216.92.8.170/cpu/00q4/001113/smackdown-07.html

[Fingers]

Hey NDC,

Tyan Thunder K7 (S2462)Dual Athlon MP (http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk7.html)

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[NDC]

Thanks, Fingers.. Oh, is an Athlon MP a.k.a AMD 4?

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[CMonster]

#$#$^#$%! where are the G4 benchmarks?!

[Fingers]

NCD, The name of the server Athlon is the Athlon MP, the MP obviously coming from the fact that the CPU is validated by AMD for operation in multiprocessor mode. From an architectural standpoint, the Athlon MP is no different from the mobile Athlon 4. Although AMD introduced new naming for some of the features of the Athlon MP such as Smart MP Technology, the same features are present in the mobile Athlon 4 - AnandTech Review: AMD 760MP & Athlon MP - Dual Processor (http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1483&p=1)

I don't know why, but Tyan has a 3-month jump on all other dual Athlon boards... it's been out since late May. As with most Tyan boards, the S2462 is built for stability and has virtually no overclockability.

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[NDC]

Thanks for the info, fingers! http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

[NDD]

Tyan simply has exclusive contract with AMD (inside info http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif )

Best Regards ...

[NDC]

Twice as fast, round 2
Last week, Steve Jobs didn't proclaim the G4 twice as fast at the Pentium III. He demonstrated it using Intel's own benchmarks.

Then he spilled the beans: the 500 MHz G4 wasn't twice as fast as a 500 MHz Pentium III. It was over twice as fast as a 600 MHz Pentium III. In fact, some benchmarks showed the G4/500 at 2.9 times the performance of the PIII/600.

Intel's response: we'll be making faster chips.

News flash: so will Motorola. When Intel hits 700 MHz, expect the G4 to be running at 550 MHz, maybe even faster.

On top of that, to match the capabilities of the Velocity Engine equipped G4/500, Intel would have to make 1600 MHz Pentium III chips. And that isn't likely until mid-2001.

Of course, by then the G4 will be running at speeds in excess of 1000 MHz, too.

Benchmarks aside, the Power Mac G4/500 system does things like Photoshop and 3D rendering about twice as fast as Compaq's top of the line PIII/600 system.

Foul?
Expect the Wintel world to cry, Foul!" over this. After all, nobody likes being in second place.

Here's one example (from CNBC):

"It was good showmanship," says Martin Reynolds, vice president of Dataquest, based in San Jose, Calif. "But it was not good benchmarking." The Intel PC used during the demo, for example, didn't have the same software plug-in used by the G4.
The plug-in in question is one specifically designed so Photoshop can use the Velocity Engine in the G4 processor. Of course the Pentium system doesn't have the same plug-in. On the other hand, neither does the Mac version of Photoshop use the MMX support built into the Windows version.

http://www.lowendmac.com/musings/g4vp3.shtml


Do a search in www.google.com (http://www.google.com) with search keywords "Intel Vs. G4 Photoshop" and you'll be able to find tons of info...



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[Richard_Cranium72]

Bottom line after you strain the soup and throw out the bones->>


" As we can see from the benchmarks results, AMD based platforms are undoubtedly preferable for work in Photoshop application "

Insert rednect truckers voice

" I like dat "
http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

[NDC]

P4 Vs. AMD, yes, it appears that way... As for P3 & AMD 1Ghz and under, the story seems to be different.

[DanU]

I hear you cmonster. Although the scope of the review was limited to the x86 platform, throwing in some numbers from the G4 would have make it more interesting. After all, the Mac is often touted as the computer of choice for photoshop users.