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ichorid
07-27-2003, 02:05 PM
i was wonderin... does ne1 know exactly how aircon works??

basicaly its just an overpowered fridge with a fan attached isnt it??

so, wouldnt it be possible to make air con out of an old fridge, and stick it next to the air-intake of ur pc for nice cold air circulating??

how hard would that be?? ne1 know if it would work??

thx:t

gjimene2
07-27-2003, 05:01 PM
the only thing i've done close to that is to stick a window unit in my window and have a nice heatsink :) Keeps my temps low. My cpu is 84F right now, just imagine how cool it will keep once the AS3 is set in :)

gibsinep
07-27-2003, 05:57 PM
ichorid- please don't type like you are 4. It makes it hard to understand you.


I don't think using a fridge would work very well as an Air conditioner, for the main thing being that the fridge would produce to much moisture, and moisture is not good for a computer. :)

zybch
07-29-2003, 09:47 AM
An air conditioner places all of the heat exchangers on the outside of your building and keeps them cool with a rather large fan.
A fridge has its heat exchanger on the back and is passivley cooled. The reason for this difference is that an air-con is designed to cool many cubic metres, while a fridge is only designed to cool at most 1.5-2.

Have you ever seen that episode of the simpsons where Homer erects a tent in the doorway of the fridge during really hot weather?
Needless to say they soon had to get a new fridge.

As far as water cooling goes, I have a frient who runs a length of tubing through his fridge and to his PC where the water running through it cools the CPU, vid card and hard drive. No noisy fans inside the case.
Of course it'd be a bugger to move the PC too far from the fridge.

gjimene2
07-29-2003, 06:47 PM
if he has $55 he can buy and canibalize a small fridge from thinkgeek.com uses 12v and will cool down to 40degrees lower than sorrounding air.

ch0wdy^
07-30-2003, 01:20 PM
i don't have the magazine but in an edition of MaxPC they showed a product which absorbs the moisture in the air. It's used in actual refrigerators for actual purposes (not OCing) but i can't remember... it's like calcium oxide or something? Does anyone know? Condensation would be your primary worry if you're cooling to temps lower than that of the ambient air.

zybch
07-30-2003, 08:15 PM
Bicarbonate Soda works quite well at absorbing moisture.
Whats more it only costs a few cents for a small packet.
You probably wouldn't want to spill it inside your PC though.

Giblet Plus!
07-31-2003, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by gibsinep
ichorid- please don't type like you are 4. It makes it hard to understand you.


Ah, give him a break. He's only 14. :p

Dracas
07-31-2003, 06:13 AM
Over many years of shipping and recieving computer goodies; I've personally built up a small mecca of Silicate packages, those work pretty well too (I've noticed) and are free :p

gibsinep
08-01-2003, 10:43 AM
Oh I forgot Giblet poeople don't learn how to speak until their late 20's. :p ;)

ichorid
08-01-2003, 01:03 PM
sorry gibsinep ;)

so basically fridges are just small air-con units?

ichorid
08-08-2003, 06:17 PM
would slightly undervolting a heat exchanger from a fridge just cause it to draw more power and therefore put more stress on the power su-pply orr would it lower the rate of heat exchange? (so it cools less)

btw gjimene2, ive been considering one of those mini fridges for a while, im just lookin for an ultra cheapo one that i wont mind breaking accidentally

JCB
08-08-2003, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by gibsinep
ichorid- please don't type like you are 4. It makes it hard to understand you.

Y'all shouldn' be makin fun o' how people talk. Who done died and made you so dang smart? :p

zybch
08-08-2003, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Dracas
Over many years of shipping and recieving computer goodies; I've personally built up a small mecca of Silicate packages, those work pretty well too (I've noticed) and are free :p

I have a box full of those little suckers as well. I'm slowly using them up by stickytaping a couple inside each PC that I sell.
I was finding that in summer when people were using their evaporating air conditioners (those big ones you stick on the roof), that the humidity inside houses was going through the roof because people weren't opening up windows/doors. Of course all that humidity condenses around the fluff and dust that PCs all pickup and was causing power supplies to blow up.

In a town near mine, the power substation always blows up during the first heavy rains after summer. The rain turns all of the collected dust into great big conductors which short out, and black the town out for usually 6-12 hours until the technicians can reset everything. All they really need to do is to keep the equipment clean over summer, but thats not how big companies work is it.
Prevention? Whats that?!

gjimene2
08-09-2003, 02:46 AM
You'll be spending more money getting a really nice heatsink+fan combo and a window air conditioning unit, but in the long run, on those hot summer days, you can fire it up without guilt and you can also cool down your room :)]


I'm like a polar bear, the colder it is in my room the better for me :)

CozyLeprecyLove
08-09-2003, 07:52 AM
ok where might i get a cheap refrideration unit that i can hook up to my comp and also if i used my enginering brain power :D to create a nifty duct from my window air conditioner would that work if i solve the condisation problem??:confused:

Yoshi
08-09-2003, 09:27 AM
you can always move to Antarctica:D :D :D

j.m@talk
08-10-2003, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by gjimene2
I'm like a polar bear, the colder it is in my room the better for me :)

Yep ya face looks like a polar bears @r$e ;)

:t :t

CozyLeprecyLove
08-15-2003, 07:07 AM
anyone still there where do u get that fridge

ichorid
08-15-2003, 10:32 AM
well you could buy a mini fridge like for keeping a 6-pack cool, or nick an old one from a scrapyard, and see if you can make it work

Yoshi
08-16-2003, 12:27 PM
Don't bother with this fridge idea, you will end up frying you system with all the moisture buildup

ch0wdy^
08-18-2003, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by Yoshi
Don't bother with this fridge idea, you will end up frying you system with all the moisture buildup

People have been posting ideas for the prevention of the formation of condensation.

Someone Stupid
08-18-2003, 02:50 AM
keep the water in the fridge, insulate the tubes, and have a pump bring it out... someone posted a pic of it.

gjimene2
08-18-2003, 02:54 AM
I thought I sent you a pm with the link for the fridge

http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/5d57/