Has anyone heard about this yet?

[MrEd]

This **** is getting ridiculous.
What ever happend to the constitution?
Are we becoming a socialist government or what?

http://news.excite.com/news/r/990820/20/tech-tech-encryption

Enjoy your freedom, while you have it to enjoy...

[Dominus]

I'm afraid that many smaller proposals like this have been hinted at, and that something this frightening was going to happen eventually. But this legislation will not pass in it's current form, methinks. It has gotten too publicized (was on CNN), and has scared Joe Q. Public a nice bit.

The U.S. gov't, and all regulatory bodies for that matter, are still unsure about how to deal with the unbridled freedom of information that the proliferation of the internet has caused. Hopefully, if this and other infringements on the freedom of free speech and expression are brought & explained to the general public as a whole, then perhaps the gov'ts of the world will grow out of their infancy, and embrace the countless benefits that such freedom of expression can bring, instead of trying to quell what they see as a threat to their own security and control.

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We have PSNs, UCITA, certain linking made illegal, and now this. I'm almost anxious to see whats next.

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[IRED]

Where have you been for the last six an a half years?Haven't you been paying attention to sick willy?Look at all the executive orders popping out of the White House lately.Look at that sorry excuse for an attorney genral we have.Look at all this so-called "GUN CONTROL" c##p.Every one looked the other way when the tobacco companies got hammered.Firearms companies are next then comes the internet.

Next thing you know you will be sitting on your front porch with your thumb up your a## wondering what the he## just happened.

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[MrEd]

LOL-IRED /forum/smile.gif
I've been around, and I've been watching what's going on, I'm just now getting perturbed with all that's going on. I know a guy, that knows a guy, that thinks Willy is Communist. I don't know about that, but there is a lot of things going on, that, when you read between the lines, makes you wonder what is slowly happening to this country. ANYWAY, with all that internet watching stuff, I better not say anything else, lest I get a knock on the door by the man. /forum/smile.gif

-MrEd

[KillerBug]

Bill is a commie, he want to Russia for years to skip the draft, how much more of a communist can he be? He has made legislature that lets him cut parts of proposals off and then say OK to just the parts he likes, he has raised taxes, and he has hinted at re-enstating the draft, despite the fact that he skiped the country when he was up for the draft. It is his second term in office, even with all the **** we went through for the first term. He has gotten a lot worse now, he lies to the american people on live national broadcasts! As for the economy, war always gets an economy going, the dollar value will drop like a brick once we stop starting wars, and people are less afraid to despute our power. I am just about ready to go to Canada, I certainly would have no problems keeping my case cool, I could just keep it outside!

[ANTONIO E GUERRA]

Hi, Mr Ed! Unfortunately we are less free everyday. I am terrible sorry to say that the Internet is attacked by the Government and the bureaucrats trying to find a way to tax it or regulate it. That why I am a libertarian!

[socalgal]

I agree it just keeps getting more ridiculous. I wish the "Government" would get their own Internet and leave us alone!

oops weren't the Government/Military/Universities the ones who created the Internet? /forum/smile.gif Nevertheless!

There are so many battles to fight, there's not enough time for me to fight them all. I'm tackling UCITA then after that, will tackle another.

[IRED]

The "Government" is still pissed that they let the Internet slip passed them before they had a chance to charge for it.

[rl]

i bet i can format faster then they can get here /forum/smile.giflol



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[mudoggy]

Didn't Al Gore invent formatting or something? I remember hearing something along those lines a while ago...
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[nilknarf]

Hey muddogy,

Al gore claims to have invented the internet!
Even though it was originally developed as a DOD project to decentralize government databases so that in the event that DC was taken out we would still have much of our computer data elsewhere.

Sorry AL, but some of us have been in to this internet thing longer than you have known that it exists!

[ANTONIO E GUERRA]

Maybe Al believes if he repeats that over and over again some idiot will believe him. Why are they so afraid of the INternet? Perhaps, freedom of speech!

[Bazango]

In all of the above discussion I have not heard anyone address what the government cites as the motivation for an encryption back door. What about criminal activity on the internet? Organized crime is a real problem that has not been properly confronted since it was identified during alcohol prohibition. The only reason we have problems with our government is because criminals have made such good use of it. The thing that the back door idea misses is that the government may not be the only interest to use it. Until we expose and crush organized crime or anything like it once and for all, we will continue to risk government intervention like this. And speaking of prohibition, the Drug War has put more money and power in the hands of gangsters then alcohol, gambling and prostitution combined ever did. It has also done more to erode the guarantees of liberty then the "government" ever has.

[GB]

Bazango:
Gov is organized crime too.
It's orginized by millions-mostly voters.
Bill is a criminal. Others doing 7 years by lying to jury.
If you'd live in area where so-called mafia lives, you could leave your your doors unlocked.

[Bazango]

Some governments are organized crime. Our government is organized crime only to the extent that we contribute to it's corruption. Corruption is the problem. Sure, many voters are corrupt too. Some of them are not even citizens. But most people sincerely believe that voting is always an honest process and the truth is that the secret ballot is hard to corrupt. The worst you can say about Bill Clinton, really, is that he is a petty criminal - an over grown juvenile delinquent. The desperate struggle to transform Bill Clinton, the president, into some kind of dark foreboding evil in the white house has cost our government alot of money and alot of people jail time. At least they are not shooting at him. I suspect, like many presidents, President Clinton has proved less reliable than hoped by the people who put him in.

Mafia neighborhoods are crime free? Sure, even a cockroach cleans itself.

[MrEd]

"The illegal, we do immediately. The unconstitutional, just takes a little more time."
-Henry Kissinger


So True.

-MrEd
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