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turbodog
07-23-2003, 07:00 PM
I now have DSL (1028/128) and would like to set up my old machine running XP professional as a webserver for a domain I all ready have (hosted w/ someone else) and to have a mail server on there as well.

can someone point me in the right direction-I'm not sure where to begin. is extra software needed? I have an old copy of WinNT4.0 server edition, which was always stable-but I"m guessing the XP pro has similar stuff built in.

thank you,
P

qball
07-23-2003, 10:02 PM
I now have DSL (1028/128)...


Is that typo, or 1028 down, 128 upload? Dependent upon traffic, 128 upload, may be issue. Also does you DSL ISP allow you to serve?

XPpro is a better choice than NT4, as you can keep IIS and OS updated for Security fixes. You might be able to keep NT4 updated, but not for much longer.

As far as hardware, if it can run XP, or NT, will most likely be good enough for webserving. Also, you need a box that runs 24/7/365. What happens when DSL/power go out, or OS hangs, hw fails? Meaning you'll need to manage the site and operations...

Not really hard to do, many already hosting own site, just google "hosting own website"

zeitgheist
07-23-2003, 10:34 PM
Also consider that you might want to use some free *NIX OSes, instead of using NT:

slackware linux
http://www.slackware.com

freebsd
http://www.freebsd.org

:D :r :D

turbodog
07-24-2003, 07:14 AM
it might have been 1024/128, but yes the download rate is what they quoted me. I had looked at Verizon's other options (all business options though) and the next option was an additional 60/month which isn't ideal for me. my webpage is really basic and its a local market-probably don't get many people looking at it anyhow,,,

a couple of years ago when I built our first server I was going to use linux, but got scared away because I'm not that into it-a little over my head.

qball
07-24-2003, 11:19 PM
my webpage is really basic and its a local market-probably don't get many people looking at it anyhow


Ok, but you do you want to do?

As in, why do you want to host your own domain?

save money$?


it might have been 1024/128, but yes the download rate is what they quoted me.


as DSL, doubt they will guarantee either rate. doubt they will allow you to serve either? talk with them?


a couple of years ago when I built our first server I was going to use linux,...


I "text" too much.

IF, you really want to host your own domain:

take that same old box, slap in a cupla, pci NICs, load an older version on unix, rh7.x, caldera openlinux3.X....

set up connectivity.
host your own domain.

turbodog
07-24-2003, 11:53 PM
power outage is nothing-a battery backup has taken care of all but two outages in the last 2 years and if it is down until the next morning then so what-if I don't have power for the computer the people looking for my business which live within 5 miles of me probably don't have it either-local business.

to be honest with you, I don't care about upload speed-if I"m hosting and sending info to a client its not bulky flash or fancy bloated webpages-my bandwidth is capable. I've got a static IP from them, so why would their be a problem hosting my own webpage when I'm buying business rate broadband service?

not sure what I "text" too much. this means-can you enlighten me? I'm guessing you don't mean text messaging like on phones,,,

only problem w/ XPPro I've found is its limited to 1 domain-correct? I know of the 10 simulateous users-but don't anticipate a problem there. is server2003 the only way around that? thanks for the time guys-

qball
07-25-2003, 11:09 PM
I "text" too much.


is porous humor for 'I talk to much', which, if you have ever heard, generally, is followed by long diatribe...

let's review:

you want to host own domain for local bidness? or what? save money?


power outage is nothing...
..to be honest with you, I don't care about upload speed...


if, I was hosting my own domain, those would be relevant. Again, does your DSL ISP allow you to serve?

As far as local bidness, sound like:

Why send usps mail, when you can walk right over, communicate "face 2 face"?


only problem w/ XPPro I've found is its limited to 1 domain-correct? I know of the 10 simulateous users-but don't anticipate a problem there. is server2003 the only way around that? thanks for the time guys-


er,ah,er... To host your own domain, you need:

domain/url
connectivity to net
web server.

How did you find this XP prob? Didya even host a domain, and then try to host another?

turbodog
07-28-2003, 07:26 AM
How did you find this XP prob? Didya even host a domain, and then try to host another?

I have this special gfit-when I read things that are relevent they just stick with me. I also try to research the topic by searching keywords on (this) forum as well.

you could have done so much more qball- for instance:
1. er,ah,er... To host your own domain, you need:
the relevent part here is what software is necessary? I have since found out it is IIS-thank you to a member who enlightened me.

2. How did you find this XP prob? Didya even host a domain, and then try to host another?
why don't you just give me an answer-maybe you don't know the answer-it may have taken fewer characters to type in "one for XPPro and more than one for NT4 server or 2003 server" (would still like an answer-but I'm thinking the limit is on concurrent sessions or seats which are purchased w/ the server).


a teacher you are not-sounds like you've got some good information and relevent questions-but the presentation is lacking. don't forget qball-there are many people trying to learn the nuts and bolts of whichever forum they're visiting. when you are brief it leaves the reader still wondering.

one last thing; you earlier noted xppro is a better choice than nt4- from experience nt4 is as solid as a rock (w/ sp6)-only down time was my doing to clean the fan. I do have two domains to host-can WinXP Pro do it?

the draw behind hosting my own websites is the lack of ISP intervention-my local ISP has had a few problems lately in terms of their dependability (especially on the email side) and its much quicker makign changes to my local machine rather than ftp'ing or going through the slow frontpage upload system.

thanks for the helpful comments,
P

thank you for you

qball
07-28-2003, 10:56 PM
why don't you just give me an answer


I did:

"domain/url
connectivity to net
web server."


I have this special gfit


me too! what do you call your "gfit"?


one last thing; you earlier noted xppro is a better choice than nt4- from experience nt4 is as solid as a rock (w/ sp6)-only down time was my doing to clean the fan. I do have two domains to host-can WinXP Pro do it?


why did you ask, as from your experience, you know?

Did you ever host a domain on NT4 "solid as a rock ", before SP6?

To answer your question: host 1 domain.

'what do you call your "gfit"?'


why don't you just give me an answer

turbodog
07-29-2003, 08:14 AM
ok qball-you made me laught now give up!

me too! what do you call your "gfit"?

I thought mine was the only gift of its kind hence the spelling,,,

in repsonse to the rock solid comment-I have never hosted a domain before but have previous experience w/ NT where it was acting as my server and I learned how to make users, assign permissions, DHCP and various NT things associated with it. Just looking to add to my repetoire.

if I have two domains to host then hosting one domain doesn't fit the bill,,,

thanks,

qball
07-31-2003, 12:25 AM
Everyone has a gift.


if I have two domains to host then hosting one domain doesn't fit the bill


good luck on DSL, hosting any URLs!

cwin
08-01-2003, 10:07 AM
I am hosting on my Windows XP HOME main system (the one i use for everything else)
Running:

Apache 2 HTTP Server
FTP server
SMTP server
(want a POP3 server)
Perl
ASP
PHP 4

ADSL
Down: 512
Up: 256

Using NO-IP

Works well but...
The speed of the connection to my site is very sluggish from the internet. If you host, i suggest getting another quiet cheap box... and network its serving folders with your main comps... You dont even need to have a monitor for the server box. If it is in your house it will need to be quiet at full processor usage... dont want to be kept awake at night.. (like in my house - 3 noisy comps in one room! - MY BEDROOM!)

It is murder if a PHP program you make is buggy and when run, locks in an endless loop... usind 100% processor usage - and you are playing a game - and Apache 2 wont let me set the process priority (Denied) IM THE ADMIN! :D