ADSL Internet Sharing and 2 PCs

[quantass]

I've already done a web search on the subject but nothing seems to perfectly answer my question. Then again I guess Im not being patient enough. :D

I finally received my Bell Sympatico High Speed ADSL Internet package which includes a Alcatel SpeedTOuch USB Modem (I also have a Efficient Network SpeedStream 5360 Modem which connects directly to the NIC). Prior to this service I was with ROgers High SPeed Cable internet access attaching the cable modem and my 2 PCs directly to a HUB providing both PCs with unique IPs at no extra charge. Because of paranoia i also purchased a DLINK DI-704 Gateway Router but it never got used.

Now with the Sympatico ADSL service can I simply attach the modem and my 2 PCs to the HUB for the same problem free internet access as i had with Rogers (of course after installing the special Sympatico software on each PC)? Or does the unusual ADSL "logging in" method prevent 2 PCs from accessing the internet?

Ideally we want both Windows 2000 Pro (sp4) PCs to have internet access without requiring the other PC to be powered on. We very much enjoyed the HUB method because both PCs were internet independant and had no problems with our constantly running peer-2-peer apps such as Kazaa Lite and eMule, Cute FTP client, and MIRC. We never explored the DLINK ROuter fully enough after it gave us too many hassles with the above apps. Regarding the Efficient Networks SPeedStream 5360 Modem, it claims to support 1 or 2 ethernet connections. Does this mean attaching it to a hub and accessing it by 2 different PCs (and so 2 different NICs) means it will work?

What would you recommend? Is there a significant speed different between a HUB and the DLINK DI-704 Gateway ROuter?

[cat5e]

Unless your ISP is freely providing you with two IPs you can NOT connect with two independent PCs using a Hub at the same time.

With the USB Modem you can connect to one PC and use software NAT (aka ICS) it can work but it is usually not stable.

With an Ethernet Modem you can use the Router and have a nice fast solid Network with Internet Connection Sharing.

More here.

Link: Basic Options for Internet Connection Sharing. (http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=105)

Link: Hubs, routers, switches, DSL, LANs, WANs...? (http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=48)

It looks like this.

Link: Diagram of Broadband Internet Connection with Cable/DSL Router. (http://www.ezlan.net/~network/router.jpg)

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[quantass]

Hi cat.

For some reason Im having troubles getting the router to work with the ADSL connection. A stable internet connection is nearly impossible to achieve -- one minute its working then after altering a setting in the router's online admin area the internet connection is completely lost.

After a few hours of frustration with the router i decided to try out the hub (Linksys NH1005). I installed the ADSL software on both PCs then attached both PCs and modem to the hub. After a slight bump, both PCs are now connected to the net. An IPCONFIG (and www.whatismyipaddress.com) reveals both PCs to have 2 seperate IPs: Efficient Networks Enternet P.P.P.o.E Adapter has a unique WAN IP address for each PC and the LAN PC have their own unique IPs 169.254.83.230, 169.254.239.130. Is this just a fluke? I am not paying for a 2nd IP address.

[memot]

i think u should get a enthernet moden and get a router and its all good
really easy :t

[gjimene2]

I'm sorry if I **** any of you guys off, but here is what I do all the time.


You have a Speedstream 5360? Ditch the USB, the 5360 is great, I have one.


So you have a Hub? Great, keep it.

Now, connect both computers to the hub as well as the modem.


On one computer go on ahead and setup the dsl service. if it's winxp, you have a built in pppoe dialer, if not, then you have to use a pppoe dialer like Enternet 300.

If you have a fire wall, configure it to trust all incoming connections to from the other computer. Vice Versa on the other computer.

Next, you can either use ICS, or download this nifty little program called Proxy From Analogx.com (http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/proxy.htm) Set it up. In order for it to be in a closed state you must assign a static ip to the computer that you are setting the dsl and proxy to. Then it will run in a closed state, and it will only give internet services to the local lan, and since your firewall is only allowing connections from the other comp in the network, you will be fine.


I highly recomend that you give a static IP to both computers.


I have three computers in my network. I have this computer set with Proxy, have the modem on a switch, as well as the remaining computers. I give them each a static IP, and have them networked. I set Proxy in a closed state, and my firewall to only trust the other IP's for the other two computers.

Ofcoarse you will have to setup the other computer to hit the computer with the dsl and proxy to request internet acces.

Proxy contains a readme that when read, you will configure the proxy right, and you will love it.