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CrazyCrusher
07-07-2003, 10:50 PM
Hey all,

I have a small problem, about 5 days ago my kids computer stopped working on the internet out of the blue, it was running fine for a while then just stop connecting, there are 2 other computer connected Via Router which is a D-Link, all computer are running windows XP home edition, I have tried just about every thing I know from deleting the network setting and starting over, manually putting in Subnet mask, Ip address, default gateway etc etc, I have also checked the network cable, I connected the computer to a network cable that was working, but that did not work, I have checked Device manager to make sure the network card was noted there and know conflicts every thing looked fine, it said (this device is working), I have checked the card its self all green lights come on when the computer is started, I also ran add ware to make sure there was know spy ware interfering with the connection and that still did not work, also when I try connect to the internet it asks me to connect which it shouldn’t because I am DSL, I have went to internet options to make sure that (never dial a connection) is checked and it is, but I still get that connect box, I have ran a ping which timed out, with know reply I am just about out of option here, so any help would be gratefully thanked, is there any chance the Nic card is gone bad even though the active lights are coming on? Thanks allot guys/gals.

Midknyte
07-08-2003, 01:30 AM
did you cycle the power on the modem and router?

it could still be a bad nic. what happens when you ping the computer itself? did you try updating the drivers?

CrazyCrusher
07-08-2003, 02:57 AM
did a power cycle and all drivers are up to date, still the same :(

Midknyte
07-08-2003, 03:57 AM
did you make sure to set the computer back to obtain ip automatically? what does it say when you do an ipconfig /all? try an ipconfig /flushdns and ipconfig /renew

CrazyCrusher
07-08-2003, 10:16 AM
I am in work at the moment, but im sure I did do a flush and renew, and i got some sort of error, I cant remember exactly what it was, so ill do it when I go home and post it.

cat5e
07-08-2003, 11:36 AM
Did you uninstall the PPPOE software?

CrazyCrusher
07-08-2003, 02:56 PM
nope, didnt need to remove it.

cat5e
07-08-2003, 05:34 PM
On PPPOE:

PPPOE software is a "Dial in Type"; it initiates and keeps the connection alive while you are surfing.

The implementation of the PPOOE software used by most ISPs is unfortunately quirky.

Unfortunately most DSL ISPs do not give you an ID and password over the phone; they want you to get it online.

In such a case use single computer connected to the DSL Modem. Install their PPPOE software and establish an account. In the process you will be given ID and Password (write them down)

Once you have an account connect your Cable/DSL Router to the DSL Modem, and plug your computers to the Router.

Log onto the Router's configuration Menus. In the PPPOE menu type Username and Password, make sure that the PPPOE option is checked. Set the Router to obtain IP automatically.

As long as you don't switch off the DSL Modem, and the Router you are connected "forever" (the computer can be switched off). If you switch the Modem, and the Router off, when you switch them on again, it will take about 30-50 seconds to the Modem to obtain connection, and the Router will automatically connect to the DSL ISP.

You can uninstall WINPOET, and or whatever software they dished you.
Or if you want you can leave them installed; (The software PPPOE appears as another Dialup connection, in the Browser). Just make sure that the Internet Browser is set to use LAN, otherwise it will keep using the PPPOE.

The Router's PPPOE capacity is independent from the Computer, and it keeps the connection alive.

In case of PPPOE DSL Working through the Router should yield faster (5%-10%), and smoother Internet connection.

CrazyCrusher
07-08-2003, 06:31 PM
I do know what PPOE (Point-to-Point Protocol over Ethernet), but thats not my problem, my problem is getting my computer back on the network and working, the problem is not PPOE, the computer was working fine, as i said, it just stoped working, nothing was added nore was it uninstalled from the computer, he was surfing and it just stoped, all my other computer on my network are working fine, know speed change, filesharing and printer sharing are working perfect, its just one computer that stoped working on the network, I am starting to think it may be the nic card, but I am going to try flushDns and renew so i can post what error im getting :)

thanks for the info.

CrazyCrusher
07-09-2003, 02:19 PM
ok guys sorry I did not post this yesterday been busy, anyways here is the error i get when I typ in ipconfig /renew, An error occured while renewing interface local area connection: an operation was attempted on something thats not a socket, thats the error I get anyways, can u tell if something is wrong from this?

thanks alot for ur help guys.

Midknyte
07-09-2003, 02:39 PM
do an ipconfig /release first, then do a /renew.

you can try removing and reinstalling tcpip and the nic drivers. your tcpip stack could be hosed.

if all that doesn't work, it could also be a bad nic. you can get a new one at Compusa or Best Buy for pretty cheap anyways.

CrazyCrusher
07-09-2003, 02:54 PM
ok, ill give that a go and see how it works out, ill post my finding when im done to let you know how it works out, im in work now so i cant do it right away.

thanks allot for your help.

Midknyte
07-09-2003, 02:58 PM
I work around 55-60 hours a week, so I feel your pain. work sux, but you gotta eat, pay rent,... :(

At least, they aren't blocking sysopt on the proxy server. :)

CrazyCrusher
07-11-2003, 10:45 AM
well I did the release/renew on the computer that will not work on the network with know luck, so im thinking it might be the nic card, so ill just go get one, only thing that bothering me is I have removed it and reinstalled it, and there is know errors, strange, but ah well ill go get one and see what happens, if not ill try reinstalling XP maybe that will work, buty thanks alot for your help dude.

CrazyCrusher
07-14-2003, 11:58 AM
A Quick Update for you guy,


dont ask me what was wrong I have know Clue, I didnt get a new Nic card, what I ended up doing was installing windows XP again, but saving all my date frist of course, when XP was complete, I set up the network again, and it ran fine, now whats bugging me is In did every thing %100 over and over, the internet printer sharing File sharing DNS showing Gateway showing, so im lost, but happy its working again, strange eh.

but thanks alot for your help anyways,