$4000 office computer

[neodave]

The computer techs at my office recently brought in our new PIII 1.0gig Compaqs. Decent computers with 19" monitors and a 12x CD-R but that is pretty much the extent of it. Upon asking I was told the cost for each computer+monitor was a little over $4000. I told them that I thought that sounded like a rip off to me. Their explanation for the cost was that the computers were built with 'industrial parts' and that they were far better than an individual could buy at their local Best Buy.
Does that sound reasonable to anyone?

[RADAR1797]

No

[Warthog]

Not at all.

BTW, there seems to be an epidemic with posts being in the wrong forum lately...

Warthog

[neodave]

Sorry, didn't really see anything "tech" about my question. I may call it the common cold, but an epidemic is a little extreme don't you think?

[Warthog]

Doesn't this have to do with computers? Anyway, whatever, it's not my place to decide where what belongs.

Every single day there are many topics of which are posted in the wrong thread.

Sorry, didn't mean to **** up your thread...

Warthog

[jad1097]

Yes you did boss man. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif


"industrial parts" they got ripped big time!!!

Check out what they could have got. http://www.alienware.com/x/sector/systems/business_main.htm I just built a sweet $4000 box playing around.



[This message has been edited by jad1097 (edited 06-14-2001).]

[scotter]

'industrial parts' ? a PIII 1 gig ?
19" monitor did it come on a custom steel reinforced case ?
You should find out what all parts came in these industrial strength computers and let us know couse man I need me some of that goodness http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

[Detemeat]

Well did a quick check at Gamepc (They are not the cheapest) and here is what I came up for 4K. Dete
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Date: 6/14/2001
Time: 11:40:45 PM (PST)

Intel Pentium III 1000EB FC-PGA Coppermine Retail - $236
Intel Pentium III 1000EB FC-PGA Coppermine Retail - $236
MSI 694D VIA Apollo 133A Dual FC-PGA - $160
Crucial PC133 1GB CAS2 SDRAM - 4 DIMMS - $440
Seagate Cheetah X15 Ultra160 SCSI 18.4GB - $425
CoolerMaster 4002 CoolDrive Hard Disk Cooler - $30
Mitsumi 1.44MB Floppy Drive - $18
Adaptec 29160 Kit Ultra160 SCSI Controller - $327
Pioneer 16X IDE DVD Tray Loading 40X CD - $89
Visiontek GeForce3 64MB Retail - $416
Creative Sound Blaster Live! Platinum 5.1 - $195
Altec Lansing ACS54 - $79
Antec SX1030W Beige ATX Case (No Power Supply) - $80
Enermax 430W ATX 2.03 Power Supply - $115
The Card Cooler Dual Case Fan - $22
Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro USB/PS2 - $70
Microsoft Intellimouse PS/2 Mouse - $28
Windows 2000 Professional OEM - $200
Sony CPD-G400 19" - $520
Linksys Etherfast 10/100 PCI Network Card - $38
Standard 1 Year Parts and 3 Years Labor Warranty with Recovery CD - $45
Assembly, Burn-in Tests, Benchmarks and Drivers by GamePC - $180

Total: $3949.00

[Yar1182]

Neodave

You've been had. Usually when a company buys Compaq workstations it's because they got them inexpensive. There is no logical reason why a compaq should be $4000 with those specs. I highly doubt they come with "industrial" parts. What would "industrial" parts be anyways? SCSI hardrives? I say you have someone do an audit of you IT department.

[DVNT1]

I buy many Compaq Deskpro EN SFF computers because of size and features. I recently bought several PIII 1.0gig with 256megs, sound, cdrom, & NIC for about $1100 each. You can easily find that price right now. Add in a decent $250 monitor and you're under $1500.

The only reason this type of computer *may* be worth $4000 is if they have NEMA approved enclosures for an extremely constant dirty/dusty enviroment. Can't say I've ever even seen a Compaq computer with that type of rating before.

[NDC]

Wow! $4,000... Imagine how much more that system could've been...

[wyvrn]

Complete ****. The IT guys are either exaggerating or they got screwed and are trying to cover their butts.

[spidey_joe80@hotmail.com]

whats all this talk about this being in the wrong forum shouldn't it be in GT?

[Raist]

Whats sad is we just got a Dell L1000r and 17" monitor for just around $1100. (1ghz plus 128MB RAM, NIC and integrated vid) Plus that comes with Dells 3yr service guarantee. Your IT deparment is either stupid or embezelling from your company. I'd have an audit done on them like Yar1182 recommended. My $.02

[Warthog]

http://www.sysopt.com/forum/Forum17/HTML/003589.html

[Richard_Cranium72]

$4k sounds reasonable to me, for Moronic Management Idiots..

We too have some of those high dollar units.

Our Dell 600's with 256mb RAM, LAN card, wimpy HD,, slow as smoke off a fresh pile of dog doo on a cold morning ,,
cost -->> $3,500 <<--

Ya see, we "Lease" them that way after we pay the enormous amount per month to total up to 3.5k we get to GIVE THEM BACK..

I told the plant manager even ol dumas me could build twice the machine for half the money..

Regulatory BS, Back-Lab fees to make "sure" that the cutting edge software, Windows NT 4.0 is "compatible" with our cutting edge server,, YEA, RIGHT.

Just another way to throw away money and charge the consumer for our excesses..

rant rant

DrVette

[This message has been edited by Richard_Cranium72 (edited 06-15-2001).]

[awwall]

Do they need some more? I'll be glad to build them some "Industrial Strength" machines for $3999..

[spidey_joe80@hotmail.com]

32 g's did u mean 3,200 cuz thres no way. what parts.

[Warthog]

haha there's a way....just not using "conventional" pc parts. You can use server parts, etc.

Warthog

[DemonKnight]

Throw some solid state HDDs in there and you've got a computer http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

[Erictronik]

12X CD-RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR MOUAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!

[Axel]

I'll bet that the IT guys just repeated what the shipper insured the PC for, not what it's actually worth. Then again - if that 19" screen is a flat plasma screen - that might do it......

DemonKnight - I'd love to get my hands on some solid state drives - Those were running about $16,000.00 for a 3GB RAM drive last year - haven't looked at them since then - WAYYYYYYY out of my price range.

[acid_burn~187]

If they are paying that much for those, then u should demand a pay raise cauz obviously they have money to throw away. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

~Paul

[struggles]

rofl!!!!!

[mwest]

Only two options here. Someone is very stupid and has no clue what they're doing or they are real smart and got a very big kickback from Compaq sales. I think it's time to call the auditors.

[Convert]

Hmmm.... first of all Compaq's are the WORST computers anyone can buy. Second, anything short of their 'enterprise' servers, is well under 4K. Your IT guys are lying to you. Plain and simple. I doubt they are embezzling money from your company, because 4K for a compaq is like 60k for a Chevy Metro (formerly GEO). They would not be that stupid... would they?

[booya]

i can have a dual compaq xeon 400 mhz server complete with network adapter and everyting for less then 2000$ can maybe less the 1000$