Another Two Questions for fans of the matrix

[Ammok]

Q1

In Reloaded just as the little sh1t tries to stab Neo, he gets apressie of a spoon.

Now in the first Matrix there is no spoon, so does this mean that Neo is in the second MAtrix conclusively.?

Q2

Why was the litle sh1t trying to stab Neo in the first place,(and he survives)

Is he a "real" Neo trying to kill our "Virtual Neo" (2nd Matrix) who would have to turn out to be a computer program like Smith for this to make sense.

[cbh]

The failed assassination was done by Agent Smith. The latter embedded himself onto a human rebel's mind. Remember a time when two rebels were trying to flee from Agent Smith? They were ordered to remain in the Matrix while the other rebels returned to Zion to plan for a major defense system. At that time, Agent Smith is already assimilating a lot of programs and he's already a computer virus. Even the agents can't stop him now!

:)

[Ammok]

thought he got killed?(human traitor)

[cbh]

He's the one that survived the Machine invasion of Zion!

He's lying ahead of Neo on the hovership at the ending of Matrix Reloaded.

[fini]

To answer the question of the spoon, yes neo gets handed a real spoon. It is not the spoon from within the matrix however ("there is no spoon"), it is simply another spoon given to him by the boy who first said the line above to remind him and to show him that he (the boy) thinks he (neo) can do it.

fini

[Ammok]

and what if it's a virtual spoon, just like the first matrix, that would make the reality of the Zion world another, second matrix.

a second matrix would also explain how Neo was able to wipe out the sentinels that had them trapped. hmmmmm?

[fini]

There is apsolutly nothing to indicate that it is a virtual spoon. In fact if I remember correctly the sppon IN the matrix was made out of metal whilst the spoon out of the matrix was made of wood. Thus it can not be the same spoon.

With reference to the sentinals I believe we have already discussed this issue, but incase you forgot: When neo jumped into Smith in the first matrix they swapped some code. Thus Agent Smith can now take over bodies and jack out of the matrix. Neo gained some agent abilities such as the one to be able to control sentinals. We know that the agents can do it because in the first matrix an agent turns to smith and says the sentinals are waiting on his command. Neo collapses after using this skill because it is the first time he or any other human has ever used it (remember the other ones would have already reset the matrix by then) so does not know how to control it properly.

fini

P.S. just a thought, but as neo can now control the sentinals do you think he might set them on the machines in revolutions?

[Ammok]

good idea, with smith controlling some humans and Neo controlling sentinels, it could be very interesting(but confusing) finale.:)

[cbh]

The main problem is: Will the humans be really free from the Matrix? Will humanity be freed from slavery?

:rolleyes:

[Ammok]

don't know, but a mega battle for Zion looms.

[cbh]

After the credits for Matrix Reloaded, I saw that the humans were preparing to fight the machines in Zion. I think you're right! The battle for Zion will be shown in Matrix Revolutions.

This movie is coming out in September 2003.

:)