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Smoke
07-02-2003, 06:08 PM
I have a modest sized LAN in my home comprised of 12 computers. This network is peer-to-peer based using a Linksys BEFSR11 NAT router, a cable modem, and a 24-port Linksys HUB. I have been using this setup for approximately 3 ½ years, and it has worked perfectly. Until recently all the computers utilized the Windows 98SE operating system, and the TCP/IP protocol.

My difficulties developed when I converted two of the PCs to the Window 2000 operating system (OS), with Service Pack 4 (SP4).
After installing Win2K, updating to SP4, configuring TCP/IP and Internet access, all computers on the network are able to see one another.

I can easily access any of the Win98SE based systems from the Win2K systems, and copy files or folders from them to the Win2K systems. However, I cannot access any of the drives of the Win2K systems from a Win98SE system. I get the “Enter Network Password” dialog box when I try.

I have a big problem. The Win2K systems won’t allow me to set permissions for drives I want to share. I’m logged on as an administrator, but that doesn’t seem to help.

When I go to the Local Disk Properties dialog box on any of the drives on the Win2K based systems, access the Sharing tab, and then click the Permissions button, I get the following message:
“This has been shared for administrative purposes. The permissions cannot be set.”

The message is in a dialog box titled “Sharing,” and has an icon in the form of a red filled circle that has a large, white ‘X’ in the center. Obviously, telling me I cannot do something.

I’m a good hardware person, but NT based operating systems like Win2K are new to me, and everything I read about Win2K configuration doesn’t seem to work most of the time. I figure sharing a drive and setting permissions should be pretty straight-forward, but it doesn’t appear to be. What does “shared for administrative purposes” mean, and why am I not able to set permissions when I am logged on as an administrator? I wasn’t able to able to access and configure my Win98SE based printer-server on either of the Win2K systems either.

I’ve noticed that Win98SE lets me use ‘spaces’ in computer names, but Win2K doesn’t allow this. All my Win98SE systems are named using the following convention:

PC Station 4, PC Station 7, PC Station 12, etc.

My drives on the Win98SE based systems are named as follows:

pc 12 drv 1, pc 7 drv 2, pc 4 drv 1, pc 26 drv 1, pc 26 drv 2, etc.

Will the above naming conventions of my Win98SE systems interfere with the Win2K systems ability to network with them?

The Workgroup name on all systems is “WORKGROUP.” At this stage I prefer staying with a peer-to-peer network, and configured all systems as a “workgroup,” believing it was preferable to using a ‘domain.”

Can anyone please give me some very “basic” advice. I figure I’m either doing something wrong, or I’m failing to perform certain configuration steps. The fact that all systems can see each other, and access the Internet makes me feel that the TCP/IP configuration settings are fine.

I am able to ping all systems from all systems locally and ping systems past my router. I have NetBIOS over TCP/IP turned on. I have File and Printer sharing enabled on all systems. I have the following components installed on all systems: “Client for Microsoft Networks,” “Microsoft Family Logon,” “File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks,” and the TCP/IP protocol.

What am I doing wrong, or failing to do? BipolarBill, if you're out there, I'd very much appreciate some of your excellent advice!

Midknyte
07-02-2003, 06:43 PM
next time, break your questions into smaller posts. it's difficult to answer so many questions at one time.

you need to use client for microsoft networks on the win98 systems and login with the same username and password as an account on your win2k systems. each win2k system has its own SAM database with the user information. it needs you to authenticate yourself or else it won't let you in.

win2k already shares the C drive as an administrative share (notice the $). That's just the way it is. It is an invisible share meant for administrators. you can use a new share definition so that users can access the drive. Why don't you just create a new folder and share that instead?

http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/w2kshare.htm

how are you trying to connect to the print server? it should be connected as a network printer. start the add printer wizard, choose network printer. choose the second radio button and click next to browse the network. you should be able to do the rest from there.

you really shouldn't use spaces in workstation names. that is poor practice in the first place. you should use the underscore _ instead of a space.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q188/9/97.ASP&NoWebContent=1

workgroup is fine for a workgroup name.

Check out this site for more win2k info:
http://www.labmice.net/