GJGJR12
07-02-2003, 10:06 AM
Does anyone know what the fastest, most reliable, most compatible browser is? i'm kinda getting sick of this IE krapola. anyone have any suggestions?
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Click to See Complete Forum and Search --> : Fastest Browser.... GJGJR12 07-02-2003, 10:06 AM Does anyone know what the fastest, most reliable, most compatible browser is? i'm kinda getting sick of this IE krapola. anyone have any suggestions? Ankerson 07-02-2003, 10:27 AM IE is still the fastest, most reliable, most compatible browser. AllGamer 07-02-2003, 10:49 AM Actually Mozilla is the fastest browser also compatible, now you can even view those MS pages, before it was not You can have Mozilla plain Browser only or the full back with anti Spam email and everything Mozilla :t rip_1956 07-02-2003, 10:50 AM Fastest browser? Meaning fastest as in rendering? Some make claims to be the 'fastest rendering' browser. Opera comes to mind, but I don't like the ads. Rendering speed seems overrated, I don't see much difference between the latest versions of any of the big players. To me, a browser is faster if I can get access to multiple websites at the same time. What I mean is this: do a google search for something and try to check out 4 or 5 of the search results to find what you were looking for. Having to open multiple windows (as in IE) and switching between these windows is slow. Give me a tabbed browser anyday. Open 4 or 5 sites (tabs) and use ctl-PgUp or ctl-PgDown to switch between them. The tabs themselves show what site the tabbed window contains. With IE, you can only blindly alt-tab to switch between them. I am currently using Netscape 7.02 at work and Mozilla Firebird 0.6 at home. They both can load themselves partially into memory for faster initial startup also. I'm not gonna touch the compatibility issue. I have heard that IE doesn't conform to standards as good as others, but so many sites use the non-standard IE way of coding that it appears thay are the most compatible. (...bracing for the flames...) sm8000 07-02-2003, 10:59 AM I'm an IE user, but I was very impressed with Mozilla Firebird's speed in rendering pages. Ankerson 07-02-2003, 11:03 AM Here is a link comparing them: http://www.greymagic.com/dagon/results.html IE is faster..:t AllGamer 07-02-2003, 11:08 AM DID you.... NOTICED.... how old that data is??? IE is now 6.0 spk1 Mozilla is now 1.4 (or even before that was in 1.4 beta for like the last 6 months or so) Mozilla Firebird (not the same as mozilla 1.3/1.4 - previously named Phoenix, was not even rated) Opera is the only one that has not really changed and FLASH ?!? is not even a browser :r use a Download Speed website, and make your own test to find out :t mireland 07-02-2003, 11:19 AM Doesn't your browser speed depend on your internet connection(dial up, dsl etc):t Ankerson 07-02-2003, 11:23 AM Originally posted by AllGamer DID you.... NOTICED.... how old that data is??? IE is now 6.0 spk1 Mozilla is now 1.4 (or even before that was in 1.4 beta for like the last 6 months or so) Mozilla Firebird (not the same as mozilla 1.3/1.4 - previously named Phoenix, was not even rated) Opera is the only one that has not really changed and FLASH ?!? is not even a browser :r use a Download Speed website, and make your own test to find out :t I have and can't see the difference. It has alot to do with how fast your connection is, how fast you machine is and how well your machine runs. if the machine machine is a p200 mmx with 32mb of ram running on dialup it's going to suck no matter what browser you use.. On mine I can't tell the difference.....P4 3.06, 512mb RDRAM, Cable ISP.:D Ankerson 07-02-2003, 11:25 AM There are alot of people out there with DSL and Cable ISP's running slow machines. The modems are pushing data faster than the machine can process it....so it is slow. GJGJR12 07-02-2003, 11:32 AM lol i know my uncle is on DSL with a freakin 90mhz machine... i dunno how they pulled that off. ITs rediculous Ankerson 07-02-2003, 11:37 AM Originally posted by GJGJR12 lol i know my uncle is on DSL with a freakin 90mhz machine... i dunno how they pulled that off. ITs rediculous OMG...:eek: rangeral 07-02-2003, 12:16 PM I did it on machines older(archaic beasts) than that for the heck of it but if its a busy day I'll just walk out of the house and tell them to get a newer machine and call back. You might as well use a dialup for less or give them a lengthy lecture on how there throwin' there money out the window. Rite now netscape is virtually as fast as IE that its not a difference anymore and on a dialup that says alot. Heck not dealing with IE's security or attacks or popups is worth the price of admission to use netscape.:) Bigjakkstaffa 07-02-2003, 12:32 PM Fastest out there is Mozilla Firebird, the stupid file attachment thing is a pain in the neck though, for that reason i use mozilla 1.2 which is about the same speed as IE6 IMO --Jakk:t cdroman 07-02-2003, 07:38 PM Avant browser (http://www.avantbrowser.com/) is very good if you don't want to use IE, or try them all and pick your fav. I think that how you configure everything on your pc has a lot to do with it and when you get right down to it they are all about the same speed. Aznmask 07-02-2003, 07:42 PM Opera is the "Fastest Web Browser On Earth!" TiGgErDbC 07-02-2003, 11:05 PM hmmm i click on a link/file/vid, anything and it takes about 1 second to open up... i'm on a 2.1ghz amd though... but still... how dated is your machine? if its anyting above 1 gig i would hope your not trying to benchmark your web browser so you can show your buddys how many pop ups you can run and the time between opening them ;) AllGamer 07-03-2003, 12:03 AM :r "see mine is faster, i can open 92864592874562435 pop ups per sec, you can only do half that... la la la lala...la la la lala..." :p :D :t TiGgErDbC 07-03-2003, 12:05 AM NU UH you CHEATED!!!!! you had pop number 32874283 cached i saw.... rip_1956 07-03-2003, 07:10 AM I still think that browser speed is getting too much attention. So what if browser x can do it's thing in .0005 nanosecond while browser y can do it in .0004 nanoseconds. Splitting hairs. It's usability that cuts it for me. I can open up 4 or 5 tabbed windows and be looking at one while the others load. For example I can open (in Mozilla) multiple threads in a Sysopt forum and have them all accessible much easier than opening them in separate windows (IE) and doing the alt-tab to get to them all. But I cannot benchmark how fast popups load. I don't see 'em in Mozilla. All this before my morning coffee. )-| cdroman 07-03-2003, 07:39 AM Is this enough tabs. rip_1956 07-03-2003, 08:16 AM Originally posted by cdroman Is this enough tabs. Wow! Pretty good. That must the IE add-on Avant you mentioned before. Interestingly, it takes an add-on to give IE this cabability. I'd try it out but I use RedHat :rolleyes: :t AllGamer 07-03-2003, 08:42 AM Yikes! ,:eek: that really looks like Pop Up kingdom there :p that's why i like Mozilla with real Tabbings :t Opera tabbings are very good also cdroman 07-03-2003, 09:17 AM I never see pop-ups or adds unless I want to. You have wonder why ms never adds tabbed browsing to IE? AllGamer 07-03-2003, 09:27 AM :confused: ?? ....cuz they like to make a clutter mess of the TaskBars? LOL :p Swordfish 07-03-2003, 02:58 PM actually sittin on a 56K you cannot be a good judge of a faster browser....I have used IE, Mozilla, phoenix and Opera. Netscape was slowest to load at startup but surfin wise every browse felt the same. may be the differences would be more noticable when the connection speed increases. iceblue 07-03-2003, 04:48 PM ya happen to know the names of those other IE alternative browsers (minimal IE installs) cause i don't like how advant's tabs are set on the bottom.. im installing on another comp that someone else uses. tried mozilla1.4- doesn't seem to like javascript, and firebird 0.6- crashes enough at the most crucial points on my own computer & won't allow me to install the shockwave plugin. Originally posted by cdroman Avant browser (http://www.avantbrowser.com/) is very good if you don't want to use IE, or try them all and pick your fav. I think that how you configure everything on your pc has a lot to do with it and when you get right down to it they are all about the same speed. GJGJR12 07-03-2003, 05:37 PM so far it seems that i think i'll just have to stick with old IE, but this tabbed windows sound cool i must say... COLN 07-03-2003, 05:51 PM My personal favorite OPERA I can customize it to my way of working. You can download the free version for a trial, and yes pay for it if works well for you, getting rid of the ads.:t cdroman 07-03-2003, 06:10 PM Originally posted by iceblue ya happen to know the names of those other IE alternative browsers (minimal IE installs) cause i don't like how advant's tabs are set on the bottom.. im installing on another comp that someone else uses. tried mozilla1.4- doesn't seem to like javascript, and firebird 0.6- crashes enough at the most crucial points on my own computer & won't allow me to install the shockwave plugin. http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?id=5 ,there are lots there. Rugor 07-03-2003, 06:44 PM I see very little differences in rendering speed with different browsers. I suspect that with a decent computer and connection they all render fast enough. I'm using Mozilla 1.3 right now and it works very well for me. I've used Opera in the past, but Mozilla is more compatible so I stick to it for regular use. IE may as some say render faster. I don't care, since it does not support tabbed browsing and automatic popup killing I find it is much slower to use. Swapping Windows, especially if grouped on the taskar is irritating if you are used to just flipping though your tabs. No other browser has IE's ability to crash the system either. iceblue 07-03-2003, 06:49 PM ah yes, crazybrowser was the one that i had in mind :t pawprint 07-03-2003, 09:06 PM I have been using slimbrowser (http://www.flashpeak.com/sbrowser/sbrowser.htm) lately, and it is similar to crazybrowser. It is also an IE shell, and allows tabbed sites as well, along with a neat feature which allows you to configure up to 10 different websites to automatically startup{located in tools>options>startup folder.} cheers, ~pawprint~ :t DVOM 07-03-2003, 10:26 PM First post here. I've gotta vote for Opera for fastest and not necessarily because it renders a page faster. Although it's fast. The question is how fast can you surf a forum or the web with it? Mouse gestures is the trick to fast surfing. Once you get used to those, you won't want to do without. So the only 2 I'll use is Opera and MyIE2. Avant's gestures aren't enough. cdroman 07-03-2003, 10:49 PM Mouse gestures; I've never tried them. Sounds interesting though. The trick is to use whatever suits your tastes. Johnny Fist 07-04-2003, 02:30 PM I fell in love with FireBird the second I started using it. I love the tabbed browsing stuff. I tried using Mozilla and hated the way it looked enough to run away from it. Aznmask 07-04-2003, 02:42 PM Originally posted by cdroman Mouse gestures; I've never tried them. Sounds interesting though. The trick is to use whatever suits your tastes. I like mouse gestures.. how does it work? well you dont need to use your Back, Forward buttun anymore.. and more.. shortkey.. Go to previous page : hold right button, click left button Go to next page : hold left button, click right button GJGJR12 07-04-2003, 08:11 PM wait... which one allows u to use tohse mouse gestures, the button clikc tihngy? DVOM 07-04-2003, 09:24 PM GJGJR12, Both Opera and MyIE/MyIE2 employ mouse gestures. What Aznmask posted works in Opera but it doesn't work in MyIE2. What does work in both is described below: These mouse gestures involve clicking and holding the right mouse button then executing specific movements and releasing the right button. Back= right click, move left and release the button Forward= right click, move right and release Close= right click, right>left>right, release refresh= right click, up>down, release There's lots more but that's all I use. The "back" gesture really speeds up forums like this one. It's fairly clumsy to use these at first, but once you've mastered them you hardly notice you're using them. When I first started, the movements were rather extreme. Now I can move about 2 millimeters and get the effect. Edit: Phoenix/Firebird also can be set up to use the same gestures, however you've got to use the left mouse button instead of the right. And this browser seems fast too. You can get the plug-in here. (http://m1.161.telia.com/~u16112907/px/extensions.html) cdroman 07-04-2003, 09:26 PM Avant browser does the ones Aznmask shows. SysOpt.com
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