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matthew13l
06-28-2003, 04:34 AM
Here's part of my computer specs:

Asus A7S333
Codegen 350-watt PSU

6 months ago, I bought an Epox 8K3AE motherboard to replace my Asus A7S333 motherboard. After I installed the Epox mobo and formatted my HD and installed Windows XP, I was getting voltage fluctuations. The processor voltage was going up and down by .016 volts about every 3 seconds. All the other voltages were fluctuting too. The computer would reboot about every 30 minutes during Grand Theft Auto 3, and about every 3 hours while idle. I came to two conclusions. Either the mobo was sensitive to my power supply, or it was defective. Bad caps maybe. They weren't buldging or anything. But anyway, I decided that maybe someone would want to take a chance with it and try it with a bigger power supply, or try to fix the mobo themself. So I put the mobo up for auction on eBay. I try to be as honest as possible when I sell on eBay. Here's the link to the auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3418780087&category=31496&rd=1

I was watching the auction as it came to an end. About 10 seconds before it ended, a bid came in and the price went from $20.50 to $28. I thought "cool!". Then, 5 minutes after the auction ended, the winning bidder emailed me and said he bid on my mobo because he needed a socket A and didn't have time to read the description before the auction ended. He said he went back to read the description afterwards and he was "horrified". Then he asked me questions like "why are you selling this if you know it doesn't work?". I responded to that particular question with "I sold it, knowing it doesn't work, because some people have the technological know-how to fix this motherboard's problems". I was even nice enough to NOT make him buy the mobo (I sold it to the bidder before him), and I also gave him neutral feedback rather than negative. Now it is 5 days later. I checked my feedback today to find this (his user name is ichstray9):

http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=matthew13l

I have been a great seller and buyer since I started on eBay almost 2 years ago, with great feedback. Could you guys please read the description in my auction and tell me why my description is jargon? When I email this guy about the feedback he left me, I want to give him the link to this post so he can see that I didn't describe my mobo with "jargon".

Nathan G.
06-28-2003, 06:38 AM
IMHO:
You did not use "jargon" and you were more honest than most in the description of your item. You were very nice to this person, perhaps too nice.
I cannot believe you let this person re-nig on their bid and then they had the nerve to fill out negative feedback on you!!
What kind of person bids on a auction without reading it anyway?!? I will tell you what kind... A bleep, bleep, censored, bleep,bleep did i say that?:eek:

It appears you have stumbeled across someone who has no business/common sense at all. I suggest no further contact with them.
I would not worry about the feedback, most of us ebayers understand that there is always "one in the crowd". As long as you don't have a lot of negetive feedback, it is no big deal.

Like i said before.....I wouldn't even bother e-mailing this (I am a potty mouth)! Their actions have shown that they must be a ( I am a potty mouth). lol:D
:r

matthew13l
06-28-2003, 06:47 AM
Originally posted by Nathan G.
Like i said before.....I wouldn't even bother e-mailing this (I am a potty mouth)! Their actions have shown that they must be a ( I am a potty mouth). lol:D
:r

I know, but it just really frustrates me that I had perfect feedback for almost 2 years and now this newbie ebayer barges in and slaps my record with negative feedback. I should get an old (functional) socket a mobo, and just ship it to him withot notice, along with an apology letter, saying I want him to have it and I am sorry for any inconvenience. but I will like, i dunno, cross some wires in the ATX connector so it will blow his power supply. Or maybe cross some leads on all the pci slots and the agp slot, and the cpu socket, so it will fry whatever is plugged into those slots. Is that possible by just crossing certain leads? I wouldn't actually do that though. But if I did, it would be pretty funny to watch it happen lol.

Nathan G.
06-28-2003, 06:56 AM
This is why i say you should have no further contact with them:
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level,then beat you with experience!:D ;)

2penguins
06-28-2003, 08:25 AM
Don't worry about the negative...

If I had interest in something you had up for auction I wouldn't be worried about 1 neg out of 30+ positives...

I've gotten unjust negatives before too...it's the price you pay for doing alot of trading.

rangeral
06-28-2003, 11:55 AM
First off you see what happens when you sell something that doesn't work, better to not bother for all the trouble. Shopping is impulsive no matter what your buying and people forget to look, everybody at some time misses something but he had no business putting in any feedback if you let him back out of it in the first place.

Ebay has a section in services if you explain to them that you let him out of it I'll bet they'll remove that negative feedback for you, give it a try they helped me out that way once.

Spardan
06-28-2003, 12:44 PM
1. NO you did not use jargon other than that which anybody who was buying a Mobo because they need a Socket A should know...

2. If he didn't have time to read the descripion, I fail to see how he could be confused or swayed by any use of jargon anyway...

he := l00ser;

impressive feedback...kinda puts him in a bit of a minority, dunnit?


keep rocking the free(trade) world!:D

Ammok
06-28-2003, 06:59 PM
I think nathanG's response is a good one. Just send a final email explaining that he is too stupid to own anything more poweful than a gameboy and can i have my 28 dollars please as stoopid people like you should not be allowed to have that much cash on them.:t

2penguins
06-28-2003, 07:41 PM
Ebay has a section in services if you explain to them that you let him out of it I'll bet they'll remove that negative feedback for you, give it a try they helped me out that way once.

I would be very suprised if they removed the fb. It's worth a try though, personally, I think you've got nothing to worry about.

I don't think anyone has ever been as descriptive of a defective item in all the history of ebay as you were in that listing :D

rmanet
06-29-2003, 08:18 AM
I "retracted" a bid but redeemed myself because you can then bid again, but I did so with a bid that I knew would never be the top bid so the item went away (I didn't read the description closely enough either but heck, it was 4:30 in the a.m.)

You can't do step 4, but I dealt once with a seller for what turned out to be a pretty decent laptop who was a complete idiot, and misrepresented in a BIG way what he was selling

ebay owns paypal, and they won't do anything really to help folks out despite their many claims about protecting buyers and sellers, but I harassed the guy until he finally put up an honest auction description

you can at least make him uncomfortable - he should be

you sold it, so you can't "demand" a payment or get the credit, but you can still do #3, then post comments on his feedback (if you can) indicating you filed a non-paying bidder alert because, after all, it's true

Non-Paying Bidder/Buyer Policy: Overview

The key to successful sales on eBay is direct communication between sellers and buyers. However, from time to time, misunderstandings occur.

If you have a non-paying buyer and want to get a Final Value Fee credit, follow these four steps:

1. Contact your buyer. Learn more.
2. Send a payment reminder (optional).
3. File a Non-Paying Bidder Alert. (This is the same for auction-style listings and Buy It Now.)
4. Request a Final Value Fee credit.

eBay's policy for non-paying buyers is:
First offense: warning
Second offense: warning
Third offense: indefinite suspension


you do have options left - go here

link (http://pages.ebay.com/help/basics/f-npb.html) link (http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/bidders_overview.html )
link (http://pages.ebay.com/services/forum/feedback.html)

comp_nut
06-30-2003, 08:40 AM
I think nathanG's response is a good one. Just send a final email explaining that he is too stupid to own anything more poweful than a gameboy and can i have my 28 dollars please as stoopid people like you should not be allowed to have that much cash on them.

man that's funny lol :D :t

AllGamer
06-30-2003, 09:00 AM
Well i really think that Itchy9 guy is a piece of ****

He didn't even BUY! the **** thing, and is giving bad feed back!! :eek: like... what's this? he has no Rights to leave a bad feedback :rolleyes: ....hmmmpm....:mad: