Bent Motherboard

[kcidwx]

This is my first P4 project. I'm trying to install a 2.26 P4 on a Gigabyte GA-8IHXP board. I'm using the factory Intel heatsink and fan. When it's installed it bends the motherboard and I'm freaking out because I think the board is going to snap. Is this normal?

http://www2.iastate.edu/~jhamblin/DSC000032.jpg

[BipolarBill]

As long as it works, it's fine. It will straighten when you install it - provided that you use standoffs and screws where necessary.

[$1500-P4 gamer]

Since its a P4 with the easy clips I always install mobo first. That thing is not only heavy but the way the tensioner is it pulls on the mobo like that when you lock the HS in it. Best to bolt to mobo first then Lock the tabs. You can clip P4's in super easy with just the mobo in case.:t

[rmanet]

Originally posted by BipolarBill
As long as it works, it's fine. It will straighten when you install it - provided that you use standoffs and screws where necessary.

check out the holes left and right - don't think that board will straighten out - I mess sometimes with the clips and a needle nose pliers when this happens to me - when I had a real tight fit like that I actually had the white tab on one side of the cpu socket break - bummer

[kcidwx]

It doesn't straighten out once mounted in the case. I also tried mounting the CPU again after the board was installed in the case and it still bends. I'm thinking I may need to cut out the holes where those 4 tabs snap into on the clip and make them bigger. I can't believe that heatsink needs that much pressure on the CPU.

[bushmaster]

Your not alone. It happens to alot of P4 boards and it does stress the superfine solder points. All I can say is don't fidgit with the HSF all that often.

[$1500-P4 gamer]

:eek:

[gjimene2]

I'll second with bushmaster. don't fudge with it or you'll be sorry.


ahhh,, this is why I hate P4's


If you ever break the white tab while installing a heatsink, there is a trick you can do with an unwanted allen wrench, or a thin round steel bar :)

[stix_kua]

That seems harsh.....too much strain on that baord could kill something vital...be carfeul and buy AMD next time so you don't destroy a fine board like that

[bushmaster]

AMD loves you. AMD died for your Intel sins. Give yourself to AMD and you will be saved LOL.



Theres nothing wrong with P4's.

"be carfeul and buy AMD next time so you don't destroy a fine board like that"

And hows he gonna run an AMD on a P4 board.

[rmanet]

anyways :rolleyes:

back to the issue at hand - another HSF is, maybe, $20 or so??

[bushmaster]

Sorry. I just see no point in alluding to some person who just spent a decent dollar or two that they made a mistake by going with Intel. Going with Intel is not a poor choice at all. It's sorta like telling the person "nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah I told you so". I just think that when a person asks about an Intel product that they are having problems with, we should stay the course and help them through the Intel problem. And the same should be done for an AMD product as well.

[BipolarBill]

True - you makes your choices and you shuts the feck up unless someone asks. That's how a gentleperson behaves.

[$1500-P4 gamer]

I dont friggen care if its a Via cpu thats one sorry arsed piece of engineering! be real proud of that work. What mobo is it? So I know to avoid it like the plauge. Oh guys, thats the prob. its a Gigabyte GA-8IHXP! Its a Gigashet! Cheap mobo so thats whatcha get. IT isnt the cpu-its the mobo at fault and its way outta spec here on the zif/retainer. Some people need to A) get off their "my cpu" is the best choice kick and others B) need to quit being so defensive about their fav cpu. Get my point.:t

[Billforce]

All this BACKBITTING regarding AMD or Intel or vice versa is NOT solving the problem the lad had in the first place. Is this NOT a help forum? Chipping over a bad MB, or CPU design ain't helping nada.
If possible, myself I would return for an exchange....just possible the retainers are out of spec. causing undue strain on the board. If they refuse to RMA, then it would remove the CPU....bolt that sucker down well and then install the CPU...much better chance of keeping things in register if they are fastened securely.
Cheers:t

[stix_kua]

Originally posted by bushmaster
AMD loves you. AMD died for your Intel sins. Give yourself to AMD and you will be saved LOL.
Theres nothing wrong with P4's.

"be carfeul and buy AMD next time so you don't destroy a fine board like that"

And hows he gonna run an AMD on a P4 board.

My Intel sins? They were what? Never did I say something was wronmg with Intel P4.

Obvioulsy he cannot run an AMD on a P4 board, wise guy.:rolleyes: It was an implied message.:rolleyes:

[stix_kua]

Back to the original topic,

RMA is a great option for this one...either that or get a new different heatsink. There is too much tension in this area. Both on this thread and on that motherboard.:p

[$1500-P4 gamer]

Why all the bickering? Its either the mobo retainer or the lock on HSF that is way outta spec-why is this anything to do with AMD/Intel is beyond me.:rolleyes:

[bushmaster]

The cam locks on the Intel fan carrier have to big a lobe on them and make more pressure than needed.
When I use the Thermalright AX-478 instead, I get a cooler running P4 and not near as much board flex.

[comp_nut]

i think i read this bs before help the guy if not well

[CrazyCrusher]

I dont know if im the only one who does this, but I have always installed the chip before I even slid it into the case, that way I dont have any undo strain on the board, I to had something like it, when I frist started building, the board would bend when installing the chips, so I started to put the chip in b4 I installed the board to the case, call me **** ways but its allways worked fine for me :).

[causticVapor]

Look guys, the P4 retention mechanism in conjunction with the stock cooler has WAY too much clip force... this is a problem purposely created by intel. It helps with heat dissipation dramatically.

Best to install the board in the enclosure, like others have said, and then install the HS.

High clip force is never bad; with low clip force you get low cooling performance. It is best to avoid stressing the board until some traces break or solder points snap, however, as others have mentioned as well.

[stix_kua]

Get a new cooler and RMA the board becuase that bend looks unhealthy. I have nothing against Intel.:)

Did you here crackling or snapping sounds when installing? That could be bad too.

[SPEEDO]

This is a common practice with the Intel setup it is supposed to be that way. I had the same question on my board and I found a link on the Intel site showing the exact same thing as being normal.

I'll see if I can get the link for you..............:D

Here ya go.................;)

http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d845ebg2/cpurm.htm

http://support.intel.com/support/processors/pentium4/sb/cs-001593-prd483.htm

[$1500-P4 gamer]

Hm my Asus P4T-e must have been defective then. It didnt bend anything like that. Tight fit-sure but not THAT tight.:t

[SPEEDO]

I have a P4T-E also and it bends a little. Then I have a Tyan Trinity 510 that that has a pretty good bend in it.

[causticVapor]

Some boards bend more than others. It's alright - just know the (commonsensical) limits.

The two boards I've dealt with at an office never bent on me.:confused: