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spidey_joe80@hotmail.com
06-13-2001, 10:54 PM
It couldn't be, could it. I've read a 3 reviews and 2 out of 3 prefer the Altec Lansing ADA 890 's over the klipsch 4.1's
there only 120watt total. There thx certified but each satellite only blows a measly 10watts and its a contender with the klipsch hmmmm this is very interesting. Also they can be bought cheaper than the klipsch at about $270 online.
Anyone ever heard of these?
Anyone own em tell me what you think.
here's review http://www.neoseeker.com/resourcelink.html?rlid=36385
and another http://pc.ign.com/hardware/307.html
MiKe85
06-13-2001, 11:01 PM
I've heard of the speakers before, but personally haven't seen/listened to a pair.
They have to have something impressive for it to top klipsch 4.1
I guess this would be something worth looking into?
AuraEdge
06-14-2001, 01:40 AM
I gotta see this...
I had my heart set on getting Klipsch 4.1's this summer.
Gunna check out the reviews, and come back with comments.
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Niether review says its better than the Klipsch 4.1's
One replaced the Klipsch 2.1's with them, which is completely resonable, as a high end 4.1 will sound more complete than a highend 2.1.
The other one was written before the 4.1's came out. They refined a few things on a 4.1's over the v2.400, as well as adding the control pod. These Altecs seem to be more feature packed than the Klipsch's though, such as the remote control, stackable speakers, digital input and optical outputs.
It seemed more like informational reviews than a Klipsch vs Altec thing. If you could get a head-to-head review of the Klipsch 4.1's vs. Altec Lansing ADA 890, it would explain the differences much more thoroughly. I'm sure theres one out there. I'll try googling it sometime.
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OuTpaTienT
06-14-2001, 01:41 AM
Well, your first link doesn't put them over the Klipsch. It says they are tied with Klipsch in sound quality then goes on to say that the Klipsch have better bass response and the Klipsch have tweeters in all four satellites (these AL have two satellites with NO tweeters? What kind of bs is that?). So to me that doesn't sound like they're tied at all. And I don't think they even touched on the subject, but I can say without a doubt the Klipsch are much louder.
And the second review you posted...
I think that Klipsch has Altec Lansing beat on the mids, but not by much. And the 890s make up for this in both the highs and low. Mind you, the midrange sounds great, and you really have to nit-pick to find fault with it, but I think the ProMedias color the sound less than the 890s. There also seems to be a bit of a dip where the low mids and the bass meet.
What kind of idiot is doing this review? He says the AL make up for lackluster midrange by having more highs & lows? How do ya figure that Einstein?
Consider this problem in the visual realm: You want to paint a perfect transition from black to white and you have 10 shades of gray paint to go from darker to lighter. Well, if you happen to be missing gray #5 then in NO way is having more gray #1 and more gray #9 going to make up for that. Without that gray #5 you're going to have a glitch in your color ramp.
If these speakers were cosiderably less than the Klipsch, then you'd have something to honestly consider. But at about the same price range, to me this seems a no brainer...Klipsch.
btw, where are the reviews you talk about that actually say these top the Klipsch?
AuraEdge
06-14-2001, 02:07 AM
lol
Outpatient: That's what I was thinking, I just wanted to be a bit more objective since I'm no speaker techologist (eh?) or anything.
I read that paragraph, and it seemed weird to me too. Mid's are important, and the crossover is VERY important. An odd crossover can ruin moments of a song, everytime you hear them. And the promedia's they mention must be the v2.400's because they mention later that the 4.1's werent out yet. In the 4.1's I believe Klipsch further revised the crossover to make it smoother..or something to that nature. And wheres the missing 280w go? nowhere?
They are probably excellent speakers, but I don't think they can beat the exceptional Klipsch 4.1's. I'm saying this based on the two reviews you gave me, tech specs, and prior reviews I've read of the Klipsch.
OuTpaTienT
06-14-2001, 02:47 AM
Then you probably noticed this fact too AuraEdge:
That reviewer says the Klipsch "color the sound less" then the Altec system does. Well, that's great to hear about Klipsch, but hey Einstein, you are not doing a review of the Klipsch. Why don't you tell us the much more important detail of exactly how do the AL color the sound? And how badly?
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Many of these "review" sites really get irritating sometimes. Often it seems as if they are just giddy at getting something for free (or loaned to them for free) to review it. Call me a cynic, but I just gotta believe it's difficult at best to give a harsh review to a company that may have just given you a $300 set of speakers. Why would you want to say anything bad about them? They're your buds. And if you're nice you may be getting next years model early.
Personally, if I can't (or haven't yet) review a product personally then I need 6 to 10 reviews from different sources. With that many reviews you're bound to have at least one point out the weak spots of a product...then once you know those weak spots you can investigate further to see if indeed they are a problem or just a minor issue.
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spidey_joe80@hotmail.com
06-14-2001, 03:25 AM
I guess i made a few mistakes first i accidently posted the wrong link the other one claiming the altec was better is this one http://www.neoseeker.com/resourcelink.html?rlid=32816
and my mistake there was that i think they were vs the altec with the v.2-400 (although the sound is not that different betwwen the two) so thats number two. sorry http://www.sysopt.com/forum/frown.gif
anyway the ign link did claim that the altec was better.
"After a couple weeks of solid usage with games, movies, and a ton of music, I am convinced that the ADA890 is about the best multimedia speaker system on the market. And yes, they are about the most expensive speakers as well"
plus the name of the article
"Review: They're pricey alright, but you're still not going to find any better speakers."
I'll keep a look out for more reviews.
AuraEdge
06-14-2001, 06:04 AM
The slightly superior base response made explosions and low frequency sounds give the nod to the Klipsch ProMedia system from about 70% of the test subjects.
I think that makes the Klipsch better to the majority.
The reviewer seems indeterminite between the two. He personally seems to slightly edge towards the AL's, but maybe he falls into the 30%, and the rest of us dont. Of course, he states that he prefers them in his 'cockpit' enclosure, because of its downward firing sub compared to the Klipsch's dual sidefiring ones. How many of you have one of these?
Also, I wonder how the rear sound sounded like without tweeters. And how do u compare a 160w sub to a 60w sub? By asking your neighbors of course...j/k http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif
Also I see a small descreptancy..this review states that the Altecs have 60w per channel..who's right?
spidey_joe80@hotmail.com
06-14-2001, 09:13 AM
point is that at only 10 watts per satellite getting compared with the klipsch proves these are great speakers and of high quality. A little cheaper than the klipsch and with a remote, their digital, and tons of modes it is good to know that there is an alternative to the klipsch if maybe someday they get too cocky.
But i guess as of now the klipsch 4.1 reign as still the best pc speakers money can buy. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif
AuraEdge
06-14-2001, 05:10 PM
They probably didnt pump them.. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif
Each klipsch speaker would be three times as loud as the front channels (15w vs 60w), and about 3.5x as loud as the rear channels (10w vs 60w).
I'll probably be too busy saving my eardrums anyways.
If the AL's were cheaper, I would definitly have considered them. Seems up there, but for the price, Klipsch is the way to go.
Warthog
06-14-2001, 08:55 PM
LOL Altec Lansing better than Klipsch?! lol what a joke....I came into this thread thinking that, read what everyone had to say and still think that. ha!
That was pretty funny....go back in your laboratory Altec!
Warthog
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