Which P4 Mobo In This Instance?

[JL_COG]

[sigh] Now that the decision of P4 over AMD is carved in stone for me at the 2.4GHz level (where a dramatic price increase occurrs just beyond) the remaining criteria are:
*Can i find a suitable 6 PCI slot board or will a 5 slot compromise be in order?
*Maybe onboard sound is ok IF a motherboard slot isn't used up in the process(ie: a necessary card to accept the sound system jacks)
*onboard NIC (a plus but not required)
*onboard RAID (nice touch but probably would go unused due to budget constraints of setting up a RAID array)
*AGP 8x (YES please!)
*ISA slots (totally ambivilant on this)
*Extremely overclockable (nice but not required for my preferences - i want it to last as long as possible)
***RAM ... have to be able to afford it but would hate to waste money on doggie-ram, barf!
... if i left anything important out please clue me in ans a hearty pre-thanks to those more enlightened than i who choose to share their education with others ... jl :t :t :t

[JL_COG]

I know better than that. C'mon, what are your thoughts. Even AMD-lovers have opinions about P4 boards. No snobbery now, out with it!:r

[iceblue]

http://appzone.intel.com/boards/index.asp :t

[JL_COG]

thanks but wasn't necessarily looking for an Intel made solution exclusively. Now if Asus, Gainward, MSI, A-Open, Soltek, Abit, etc. etc. weren't out there it might be different. Reason i even asked is everytime i have researched the best board for my particular cpu choice at any given time the info became outdated before the cash became available, so i THOUGHT it might be easier to as a question on a hot forum for suggestions and cut some research time. Guessed wrong did i? (for the AMD fans)mi know AMD offers a serious performance per dollar advantage. i just preferred knowing my cpu won't fry should something go wrong with cooling. My opinion is this doesn't necessarily make me stupid although other factors if made public might implicate me for stupidity, but that's another story. :)

[Rugor]

I wish I could help, but I'm an AMD guy.

I know a fair bit about processors and chipsets but not enough about any specific boards to give you real advice.

[RayH]

ISA slotss are totally legacy. I don't think any new manufacture motherboard has them anymore. I don't know that anybody makes such devices.

Don't worry about building for the future. How much of the hardware in your present computer are you going to put in your new computer? The modem, floppy, and maybe soundcard? I don't even reuse hard drives. Too small, too slow.

Go up to New Egg and look up ALBATRON boards. Very affordable and designed to overclock. I built a couple on Intel chipsets. Only 4x AGP. But really nice boards. Good customer support by e-mail!

[JL_COG]

Thanks. Since cash is tight i'll be using all i can that won't hurt actual program performance. Like the monitor, kybd, mouse, DVD and CDRW, floppy, LS-120, Tape Backup, SCSI, NIC, sound card & surround, scanner & printer. (that's a lot of equipment to replicate by buying a entire new system - i'll replace what fails along the way) The New Purchase for now will be the required minimum (Mobo, CPU & RAM) then later as can afford, AGP and HDD. Was just given a PCI modem or a controller-based PCI would be in that first list. Of course it's always nice to mentally configure a 'dream machine' but that's how i burned out on researching this stuff. BTW, think i finally settled on a nice stable Intel d875pbzlk. Any feedback on that? jl :)

[RayH]

Processors are so fast these days, I don't know that a V.92 WinModem, which can be had for free on certain Sundays at Office Max, are really a drain on system resources.

[Tor]

The Intel boards are really nice, stable, easy to use and that 875 board would be a good one. (You could keep the board and upgrade to an 800Mhz FSB P4 when prices come down.) If you do want overclockability though the Asus P4C800 would be one to look at. Asus makes nice stable boards and plenty of overclockability. My buddy just bought the P4C800 day before yesterday, but I haven't heard back from him yet on how its doing. I'm waiting for an Asus 865 based mobo for my P4 3.0Ghz 800 FSB though. They should be a little more forgiving to the checkbook. But the Intel is a good choice, or the Asus.

Tor

[Izdaari]

845PE is still the best bang for the buck in P4 chipsets, but an 865 would probably be worth it if they're available in time and not too pricey. 875 is the new king, but expensive. I don't see the point of buying a P4 and not using an Intel chipset, since the bulletproof Intel chipsets are the only reason I'd even consider a P4 over an Athlon.

My suggestion would be an Albatron, ASUS, Gigabyte or MSI board using one of those chipsets. And Intel boards are excellent too, just not overclockable, but if as you said, you want the system to last, you shouldn't be overclocking anyway.

Number of PCI slots is almost irrelevant anymore. On my main gaming system (an Athlon XP on ASUS A7N8X Deluxe), the only expansion card in it at all is the video card, which is AGP of course. All the PCI slots are empty. Why? Onboard LAN, onboard audio (which is pretty good these days, not much reason to even bother with a sound card except for audiophiles), external modems (DSL and 56k backup).

[JL_COG]

this is what i was looking for when i posted here originally. Thanks, Thanks, Thanks, gentlemen. jl:D

[bushmaster]

Take a look at this board here (http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=434&MODEL=MS-6758) This is going to be my next solution as it will handle the 533 and 800FSB P4's and is DCDDR capable. The P4 800Mhz FSB procs are already out in the market starting at 2.4 Ghz for about $196 retail box/$179 OEM, free shipping from newegg.com which makes the extra $20+ you spend on the C CPU well worth it. The LISR version of the board I pointed out has it all and is well worth the investment.

[tommie b]

this is probobly a little late but the p4p800 pe 865 board is the best board for the buck out now, i just bought one ,and yes i love it, but then again i love my nforce2 board too.

tommie j