ALL MODERATORS READ THIS!!!! Also Rmanet

[konkord22]

I got my account banned. I was exhaust. I want to state for the record " I don't have nor run a business. I think that my account was banned for no reason. I received an email from sysopt that said if I didn't reply within 7 days my account would be banned. I replied the same day or very next day with my reasons. Still got banned. What kind of **** is this. That guy Rmanet or whatever you want to call him is trying to pull some bullsh!t on me at some kind of business burough. He is trying to say that I run a business or whatever but I don't. All I do is try to sell on here and on Ebay. This is the story about Rmanet. I put my list of stuff for sale on here and he wanted to buy a p3 866mhz processor from me. I said ok. He sent the money to me right away. First off his address got thrown away by my girlfriend on accident. Then he finally emails me with his address again. So I send the processor. In this whole process I never guranteed anything because like I told him, I bought this processor from a guy on ebay and he guaranteed it to be working but I never tested it myself. I never used this processor ever. I told Rmanet that. He also never asked if it even worked in the first place. He took the risk himself by sending the money right away without asking questions first. He doesn't need to try to mess with people he don't know by filing a complaint saying I run a business without a license because selling on here isn't running a business now is it? There was no guarantee, no business, no nothing. So, Rmanet get a life and try to screw somebody else not me.

[gjimene2]

Alright you two, this is what I would like for you guys to do.

PM a mod or even me the contact history you guys have, if messages are too long, then the best thing is to copy and paste on a document and email it. The the mods will see who is trying to screw who here.

Another thing Exhaust, it's kinda fishy that you wouldn't even reply to your own thread.

Also, your website at Crosswinds does count as a business website. I have seen your posts before and at times you are too lazy to even put in your post what you are selling and just try to link people to your site.

I understad that you may have a website with pictures of your goods, but that's it, it should just be pictures that are hotlinked so that we may view the goods that you are selling and have pictures of.

[bushmaster]

"He also never asked if it even worked in the first place. He took the risk himself by sending the money right away without asking questions first."

Your trying to tell us that you think somebody is actually going to buy a used PIII 866Mhz for $60 to use as a keytag ?. Nobody buys a CPU that old for $60 w/o knowing wether it works or not. And if it was unknown wether or not it worked that should have been posted.
Thats like selling a car for a premium price, and after the person hops in it and turns over the engine and it belches white and grey smoke in the air and sounds like the connecting rods are going to shoot through the oil pan you turn around and tell them "well hey, I never started it up before, thats your problem.

[crossedup]

just a small note to help this argument

i, as well, bought something. just checked paypal and it was march 24 when i paid. still havent received merchandise but was finally contacted this afternoon after at least a week if not longer absence . in that time i sent 3 emails with no replies. last time i heard from seller was e-mail after payment made, trying to find date.

not sticking up for anybody but not good business practices on sellers part. you pay money you do expect to get goods in reasonable amount of time

[Imperion1]

You stated in the post that all items are in mint condition. I'm assuming that would also mean the cpu?

[bungee]

I don't know the entire story and do not pick sides or lay blame. Although this may be of little help as hindsight I still offer this point of view.

I believe that the buyer, (any buyer), should beware and should make the attempt to get satisfactory confirmation on the condition of the product before paying. If the buyer in fact did attempt to acquire confirmation, yet met with no response then it would be wise and expected for the buyer to not send payment until that condition has been met.

I believe that it is in the best interest of all parties for the seller to ensure that a product is in fair condition before selling. Stating that the product was not tested - yet is still for sale for the expected price of the same product in working order, can only leave others with suspicion as to the sellers motives. In other posts where a seller has listed an 'untested' product I have always seen it noted that the product is of unknown condition and that it is "as is" - AND carries an extremely low price compared to the same product in working order.

I think that it would make sense that the deal be undone - which would show good faith on the part of the seller if he is as innocent of wrong doing as he claims. If the seller received a bad deal from buying the product off of EBAY then it his responsibility to take action against 'that' seller and not pass the bad product off on someone else - IF in fact this is what happened

MY thoughts only - I choose no sides and lay no blame.

I do think it is important though to point out the sellers statement in his post ... here is a quote:

Have pictures of items upon request. All items are in mint condition. I take care of everything that I own.

[gjimene2]

btw, I have two or three threads by this user cached. I'm sure the mods have them too.

[Steve R Jones]

konkord22, if you're such a stand up guy, make the deal right. You can always pawn the processor off on someone else.

Surley you'll admit the "Mint Condition" and OH, you didn't ask if it worked are kind of lame....

And not sure how a member came up with the link to Crosswinds..steals and deals...care to explain
:confused:

[konkord22]

First of all, about the website. I didn't think anything was illegal about putting pictures of the stuff I had for sale or trade on there. I found out that I couldn't do that so I took it down completely. I do not run a business. I really don't care what any of you say here. I'm totally in the right on this one. This guy didn't give me anytime at all before sending the money out. The mint condition statement on my other post was clearly human error. I wasn't thinking about the processor because when I bought it off ebay it was guaranteed working but I'd never installed it myself. The bottom line is he should have asked questions before buying. I had no way of testing this processor.

[thronka]

It was because it was a BUSINESS website with an ORDER FORM. You need to read rules because this is a USER to USER area. Not BUSINESS to USER.

[bushmaster]

"This guy didn't give me anytime at all before sending the money out."
No time ?. you posted the items on 2/28, your received his moolah on 3/6, and then he recieved the CPU on 4/4. Thats a month and 7 days. Ya burnt the guy. Make right on the deal. Nobody pays $60 for a keytag.

[gjimene2]

Steve, The cached version of the page that contains the link for the Crosswinds was after BiPolarBill edited out the link.

If you do a search on the User To User Product Exchange, you will come up with two pages. This one and This one (http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=129567&highlight=crosswinds)

Also on the fact that he did say that he took care of what he owns and that they are in mint condition, at any post it means that everything that he has in his hands is very well taken care of and that since it is very well taken care of that it is in a working condition.

[Imperion1]

Even if he asked if it was working, what would you have said? Would you have told him that you don't know, you haven't tested it? What?

[Imperion1]

By the way, why in the ever lovin world would you buy a processor if you have no way of testing it?

[gjimene2]

Good Question.

So where is Exhaust to answer it?

[thronka]

I think he might of gotten re-banned. Thats my best guess.

[gjimene2]

prob no. I'm sure Steve is pm'ing with him.

[Imperion1]

Nope, he isn't banned yet.

[bungee]

I really don't care what any of you say here. I'm totally in the right on this one.

I think that you 'DO' care otherwise you would of just stayed banned and gone your own way without looking back.

It seems to me that everything you say can easily be refuted - EVERYTHING

If you are innocent of wrong doing then undo the deal and take 'your' lumps on the bad deal that you got and leave it at that - you have a computer so you have a desk and every desk needs a paperweight.

EVERYTHING that you have said has been proven wrong, misleading or a total lie. Make good on the deal and stop wasting everyone's time.

[gjimene2]

how would he like for my character to appear underneath his bed? :D



He's evil, evil I tell ya!
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/makiro_networks/evil.jpg

[LordKwiKSilva00]

man, i am with the rest of these guys on this...i may not be the best trader in the world(after the SNAFU with bipolar bill here on sysopt and madfish over at XPC), but i know how to make right on my deals...i believe that Rmanet was screwed over, and you should refund him..and man, who pays 60 big ones for a lousy keychain??? especially when that processor is not new, but used, and you sold for that high...now, i am making good on your screw up and i am selling him a known good 1.1 P3 socket 370...for less than you sold him the 866! you said that ALL the items where mint condition, but rmanet got a keychain with bent or broken pins(from what i understand)...now, it would be in YOUR best interests to refund him, and guarantee non DOA and refund for DOA next time you trade with ANYONE...to quote bipolar bill indirectly, compensation is a key to happiness and guaranteed trades later on after you fook up with one trade...ALWAYS compensate if you fook up...

plz, just refund him, and get it over with...it is gonna happen sooner or later, so u might as well get it over with now, and make a name(better than one you have atm) for yourself

[gjimene2]

compensation is the best thing in the world.

One key thing I know is that friendship is one thing, business is another. And don't let the business ruin your friendship, instead work thing out.


but in this case I say, you don't know each other, it's a sale that was made, strickly business. You should refunt and compensate.

[bushmaster]

Ya even think this guy cares ?. He's just off to find the next of multitudes of sights out there where he can sell, or pretend to sell and make off with peoples $$$$$.
What we have here is our garden variety TROLL.

[gjimene2]

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:p

[LordKwiKSilva00]

i guess your right bushmaster...it would be better though if rmanet could get his cash back...i would talk to trollhunters bout this

[gjimene2]

speaking of Trolls, what ever happen to your "Jolly" memeber who's name is troll and whined about people making fun of his name?

[rmanet]

hey guys - thanks for the support - I made a few "inquiries" locally there in the city he resides in......just wondering what my options are

exahust sent me an e-mail yesterday, but I was fixing my car (to afford buying "mint condition" PIII CPUs, so my 8 year old could play C&C Generals - was running a celeron 800) - he also said it was a "very nice processor" by the way in a PM - been too busy to get on MSN Messenger to get back to him - it's the only way he'll talk.....

didn't get done 'til 10 p.m. with the car - then time for dinner so went to bed after that

gjimene2 - thanks for caching the page - I didn't save that - but did cut and paste his MSN Messenger "exhange" where he said - in no uncertain terms "you, rmanet - took the risk: so no $$ back"

and LordKwiKSilva00 - you're a class act - been busy fixing my cars this weekend (and helping a nonprofit with a new rebuilt computer for them to use - took a couple of hours this a.m.) but $$ on the way :t

sysopt's the best........and if exhaust doesn't do anything I'll be sure you y'all know :t

- - and did the other guy on the post ever get his stuff?????

[bushmaster]

"speaking of Trolls, what ever happen to your "Jolly" memeber who's name is troll and whined about people making fun of his name?"
Yeah Gabe I remember that one. Talk about a poor attempt at reverse psycology by using that nickname.

[crossedup]

no, havent gotten diddly yet except a couple e-mails promising delivery and apologizing

i quote, EM #1

"Rest assured. Going out in the morning. I'm not a business. I've thrown in a
heatsink because I have taken so long. I did need you address. I've also
been out of town lately but I'm sorry for the wait. Reply back to me so I'll
know you got this. Thanks."

i replied saying i wasnt business either thats why $50 was such a big deal.

i quote, EM #2,

"I understand that man. Once again i'm sorry about the wait. Thanks for being
so patient. I hope you enjoy the motherboard and processor. Later"

both those are dated fri 4/11, keeping my fingers crossed on shipment

[LordKwiKSilva00]

thanx rmanet...if it is by any chance DOA, i WILL give a FULL refund plus the shipping costs...it shouldnt, as i just ran it the other day....when i originally tested it, i couldnt get anything with it, but i pulled it the other day and put it in another board other than what i had been testing with, and i got a post and it loaded winME...

[gjimene2]

and you know what ticked me off? He was b|tching and complaining about it.

[konkord22]

I've decided to refund rmanet's money. He was kind enough to ship the processor back to me and it's on it's way now. I put myself in his shoes and he has been more than friendly this whole time. I also shipped out crossjc's motherboard and processor out today. Just to let all of you people know.

[Steve R Jones]

I love a story with a happy ending so I going to put this thread to sleep)-|