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dirtfarmer
03-10-2003, 11:33 AM
so has any one heard of the replacement OP system for XP called longhorn
bet not many
well found some info i do not like at all

The successor to Windows XP (due in 2004, and rapidly slipping to
2005) is currently code named Longhorn, and it will not be
compatible with your existing software, hardware or methods.
Microsoft has already stated that backward compatibility will
not be a design feature.


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TOURBUS Volume 8, Number 41 -- 15 Feb
THE INTERNET TOURBUS \___/
Visit the Tourbus Home Page at http://www.TOURBUS.com !

TODAY'S TOURBUS TOPIC: Beyond 2003 / Web Site Optimizatio
http://tourbus.com


On with the show ...

Today's post is going to be a little more serious than usual. No
"poke the bunny" or "zombo.com." Instead, we're going to look at the
future of Microsoft and at a new book that may forever change the way
you create Web pages.

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Microsoft: 2003 and Beyond
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I'd bet anything you've never heard of Andrew Grygus or his company
Automation Access. That's about to change.

Back on February 23rd, Grugus posted an editorial titled "2003 and
Beyond -- Technology trends that will affect your business and how you
do business." You can find Grygus' editorial on the Automation Access
site at

<A HREF="http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit029.html">
http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit029.html </A>.

Predicting the future is almost always a fool's errand [flying car,
anyone?] But, using research and news articles from hundreds of
different sources, Grygus wrote an 50+ page editorial that offers an
in-depth, ten year look at information technology in general and
Microsoft in specific. As Gryus notes,

This article is a guide to trends that are already in full motion
and well known by technology specialists, but are far from
obvious to most business managers.

I take exception with Grygus calling "2003 and Beyond" an article. It
isn't an article, it's an editorial. Granted, it's an exceptionally
well researched editorial [the bibliography is *ELEVEN* pages long],
but it's an editorial nonetheless.

Grygus adds that

Much of this article deals specifically with Microsoft and
Microsoft's future. This is inescapable, because Microsoft is a
huge part of the information industry - and aspires to being all
of it.

And therin lies the problem. The last seven words of that quote show
that Grygus isn't particularly a lover of Microsoft, and he allows his
anti-Microsoft, pro-Open Source/UNIX viewpoint to seep into his
"article" from time to time. In more than one place in his editorial,
Grygus is long on accusation and short on substantiation.

All that aside, Grygus' "2003 and Beyond" is one of the most important
things I have read in a LONG time. It's no "Crime and Puzzlement,"
mind you, but "2003 and Beyond" does give a frightening and eye-
opening look at Microsoft's public plans over the next decade.

Here is a small example of why I think Grygus' 50+ page editorial is a
must-read:

The successor to Windows XP (due in 2004, and rapidly slipping to
2005) is currently code named Longhorn, and it will not be
compatible with your existing software, hardware or methods.
Microsoft has already stated that backward compatibility will
not be a design feature.

Here's another one:

Office 2003 and Windows Sever 2003 will include a Rights
Management Services feature for document security. ... If
Microsoft can convince businesses to use this feature, Office
2003 documents will be completely unreadable by OpenOffice /
StarOffice, WordPerfect Office, Lotus, and by all older versions
of Microsoft Office, forcing a total upgrade of Windows, Office
and the computers it runs on.

If your reaction to either of these quotes is "whoa!" -- or if you are
in ANY way, shape, or form involved with computers and information
technology -- you NEED to take an hour out of your day and read Andrew
Grygus "2003 and Beyond" at

<A HREF="http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit029.html">
http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit029.html </A>.

Regardless of whether you agree with Grygus' anti-Microsoft rhetoric
and conclusions, I promise that "2003 and Beyond" is an eye-opening
editorial.


a other site with info
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=4163
Microsoft Longhorn, 3GIO to change PC rules

No backwards compatibility claim

By Mike Magee: Friday 28 June 2002, 15:02


A SOURCE CLOSE to Intel and Microsoft's plans tell us that plans are well advanced for the successor to Windows XP.
But the source, who works for a third party vendor, tell us that Microsoft will make the bold – perhaps foolhardy step – of making Longhorn incompatible with all previous operating systems.

http://www.zolknetwork.com/windows_longhorn.php
The Next Major Update for Windows

Windows "Longhorn" is the next major release of the Windows Operating System. "Longhorn" was first announced in 2001. This article will preview some of the new features you can expect to see in "Longhorn".

http://www.winsupersite.com/faq/longhorn.asp



Windows "Longhorn" FAQ
Once envisioned as a minor upgrade to Windows XP, Windows "Longhorn" took on all-new importance in early 2002 when Microsoft decided to reach for the brass ring and make this upcoming Windows release an all-encompassing major upgrade with a new security architecture called Palladium, a 3D-enabled user interface, and brand-new, database-based file system, and many more exciting new features. Here's the first--and most comprehensive--Longhorn FAQ ever created, constantly updated to include the latest information about this release

Bigjakkstaffa
03-10-2003, 12:05 PM
News about it has been circulating the net for quite a long time now ;)

--Jakk:t

Swordfish
03-10-2003, 01:47 PM
yes...some new filesystem is going to make its debue with it...will probably release by 2004...its been some time since it was leaked.

ukulele
03-10-2003, 04:49 PM
Will it be free? I paid M$ in 1998 for 98. What? I got to pay again for software that XP won't run but my trusty 98se will? :mad:

bushmaster
03-10-2003, 05:07 PM
Me believe Longhorn is slang for male genitalia. Which is exactly what M$ will be slamming up the collective rectums of PC users when it comes out.
Longhorn means that whatever computer it comes installed on will become the property of M$ and that anybody who uses it better be a good little well behaved user as Bill G see's it or you'll be grounded from using your own PC.
I mean whats the justice dept. gonna do this time ?, slap Billy boy on his pee-pee again. He doesnt care, he already has more $$$ than most other countries.

AllGamer
03-10-2003, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by ukulele
Will it be free? I paid M$ in 1998 for 98. What I got to pay again for software that XP won't run but my trusty 98se will? :mad:

yup that's always the way

they force you to up up up up up

and you keep on pay pay pay pay pay :mad: :x

Cyan
03-10-2003, 06:56 PM
Microsoft will become more of a parallel for Macintosh eh?

2penguins
03-10-2003, 07:34 PM
The following statements are just speculation on my part:

This is about intel and MS attempting to get around monopoly laws.... They want the new PC market to themselves and this is how they get it. They fix it where only digitaly signed hardware & software can be installed in the machine ( MS & intel can call this compatability assurance). To get your software or hardware digitaly signed you have to pay MS & intel a fee...

Now companies that sell computers like Dell, HP etc. need to have MS for their OS and they like Intel because they like being able to tell everybody they have intel inside....and that's exactly where they will have them...( * )... MS can no longer force PC makers to use their software on their PCs directly, but by forcing all software & HW to be digitaly signed they still force them to take their software...and HARDWARE too.... With intel onboard, they could make it impossible for other OS's to be ported to those machines...They could also make sure YOU only add their products to YOUR machine...

It's nothing new..they just turn Microsoft into Macsoft :)

Johnny Fist
03-10-2003, 08:26 PM
Yeah, I remember the big panic before XP came out, too, with the active registration and all that nonsense. I'd be willing to bet that one out of every three people using XP are using a pirated copy. What makes you think LongHorn will be any different?

ukulele
03-10-2003, 10:34 PM
Frankly, I don't really care. Until someone comes out with better software that I just gotta have and it won't run on Win9x, I'll just use what I know will work for years to come. Most of the latest versions of software that I use are getting to complicated to use efficiently anyway. You really have to ask yourself what do I really use the computer for? Is the software and hardware adequate? In fact my next hardware upgrade will be later then sooner. It's a sign of the times.

dirtfarmer
03-11-2003, 11:18 AM
well nothing microsoft does will be for the people good, well all know that, and i think it the wave of the future, i all ready seen a new letter MS is not happy with big co either it seem ther are useing word 97 or word 2000 and not update, so MS plan a big sale plan to get co to upgrade lol

all ready XP made some software non workable with xp, it work fine on 98 but not xp, i think it beema long time goal of MS amd with some software make to a plan useless of software,
buy buy is ther goal

gjimene2
03-11-2003, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by bushmaster
Me believe Longhorn is slang for male genitalia. Which is exactly what M$ will be slamming up the collective rectums of PC users when it comes out.
Longhorn means that whatever computer it comes installed on will become the property of M$ and that anybody who uses it better be a good little well behaved user as Bill G see's it or you'll be grounded from using your own PC.
I mean whats the justice dept. gonna do this time ?, slap Billy boy on his pee-pee again. He doesnt care, he already has more $$$ than most other countries.








ROFLMAO, awwww F***, LOL!!! Almost had a heart attack laughing of how nicely you said it Bush, LOL.

dirtfarmer
03-11-2003, 05:48 PM
1) Microsoft Gives A Little Extra Life To Win98

Late last year, Microsoft pulled the plug on a group of older products,
including all versions of DOS, Windows 3.xx, NT 3.5x, and the seminal
Windows 95--- arguably the most important commercial operating system
ever released. (See "It's Curtains For Windows 95"
http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20021211S0008 )

This cessation of support wasn't a surprise: Microsoft had announced its
comprehensive "Product Lifecycle Guidelines" back in 2001. The
guidelines called for older products to be phased out fairly rapidly;
and for newer products gradually to ramp down through diminishing levels
of support as time went on: The older a product was, the fewer support
options would be available for it until it reached what Microsoft called
"end of life," when all official support would stop.

Microsoft originally had Windows 98 set for a fairly aggressive march
towards "end of life" in June of this year (2003) but got a lot of
negative feedback: After all, Win98 remains the world's most popular
operating system, and pulling the plug on it is no trivial matter. As a
result, late last year Microsoft relaxed the schedule a tiny bit: in
effect, granting Win98 a very limited stay of execution: It still will
become MOSTLY unsupported in June of this year, but some paid support
options will remain available (for those who want to pony up the money)
for six more months.

Microsoft quietly juggled the support options for several products late
last year; changing the dates and rates at which its software would drop
through the four levels of support that Microsoft has set up: from full
or "mainstream" support (with free and paid live support; support for
warranty claims; online self-help support information; and freely-
downloadable hotfixes, patches and updates) through "end of life" (no
further support of any kind, period).

The schedules aren't always easy to figure out because Microsoft's own
pages on the subject are confusing and internally contradictory in some
places. I waded in, tried to make sense of the information available,
and put it all in the current InformationWeek column, available (free)
now at http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20030307S0018 .

In it, we'll walk through the currently scheduled "life cycles" of
Windows 98/98SE, Windows ME, Windows NT 4.x, Windows 2000 and XP Home
and Pro.

NOTE: Believe it or not XP Home and Pro have *DIFFERENT* support
lifecycles, with Home's support expiring TWO YEARS sooner than Pro's!

I'll also give you direct links to the five different Microsoft
resources I found on product lifecycles, so you can try reading the tea
leaves yourself, if you so desire.

This is important information for anyone using any version of Windows;
and for anyone planning to move to XP. Please click on over to
http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20030307S0018 and check it out!

trouble
03-11-2003, 08:17 PM
ROTFPMSL
Well Said Bushman

For anyone who resents whats going on with micro$haft there is a nifty platform called Linux with a flavour to suit everyones tastes.I suggest people who aren't familiar with it to start learning :r