Never OC'd but want to!!! Can I OC this?

[Hearie]

Can I over clock this?

533 Celeron
MS-6182 ATX WH8 MO-BO

Do you need more info?

Thnx
Bryan

PS- It's running at 66Mhz(Bus) and I can't figure out how to get it to 100Mhz....or maybe I just can't...Celeron is attached to a CPU Card that has no jumpers on it.

[Cyber101]

you can... but it wouldnt make that much of a difference. Its a celeron for christ sakes...

[Hearie]

Thnx for the info Cyber101....:rolleyes:

FYI: This Celeron is OC friendly(At least from what I have read, someone will correct me if I am wrong). From 533Mhz to 800Mhz is a nice jump. I just don't have the faintest clue as to how to OC. And I haven't been able to find much out about the MO-BO and its OC ability.

grrrrrrrr

:mad:

[Cyber101]

thats very true.. although it's somewhat possible to oc ur cpu, u need to know if the mobo would allow it. What kind of computer is it? COMPAQ? hopefully not...

[Hearie]

I am gonna say it's a custom build, but that sounds so....well...so....hmmmm....well when I think custom I think bells and whistles and this definitely isn't a bells and whistles kinda box. I put it together after I found an old case, a kinda old MO-BO, and,of course, the...ahem...Celeron...;)
So the question is now about the MO-BO. And also the Bus speed, I want it at 100Mhz if it can do that. Which I know it can, I just can't figure out the jumper settings and the BIOS settings. Thnx!

Bryan

[rip_1956]

You might try running a utility called aida32. It might help identify what components you have in this custom box you have. Look -here- (http://www.aida32.hu/aida-features.php?bit=32)

It can generate a long, detailed report about your system. I found it to be helpful and interesting.
:t

[elroy]

I would say you have little to no chance at all of getting 800mhz from this cpu. It is just to big a jump. Very few chips will run at 150% of their rating.

[Rugor]

Actually a lot of the old Celerons will do just that.

Note the 300A@450, the 366@550. Later steppings of the Celemine, which he has, would also jump a full bus notch, as would some tualatin Celerons.

[BiG MiKeY]

Originally posted by Cyber101
you can... but it wouldnt make that much of a difference. Its a celeron for christ sakes...

yea there on chip caches suks or non exsistent..... good luck overclocking it though..... the mobo is essential to overclocking, and so is the ram

[Hearie]

I have alot of reading and learning to do about OCing, but am looking forward to it as anything that you can "mess" with is always a good Sunday afternoon waster.

Still trying to find out how to get the FSB to 100Mhz though so if anyone knows or can point me in the right direction I would be much obliged!

533 Celeron(Can this do 100Mhz?)
MS-6182 ATX WH8 MO-BO

Thnx
Bryan

[x51out]

You should do a SEARCH here on Sysopt. If I'm not mistaken, the Celeron oc was covered a few years ago, as I had done a search for an oc project myself and some stuff came up.

[chriswhitelaw]

actually coming from a person who is also using celeron with no problems at all I can say I went from 667mhz to 833mhz. One day I'll get into the ghz category when I can afford it.:t

[Hearie]

x51out- First let me say I always try and remember to do a search on a topic first and that is what I did with this subject. Second let me say I got lazy and didn't read much past the first page of results from the search. I went back and did another search and read past the first page of results and read a little more of each post and have learned LOTS more than if this thread lasted 3 months. So thanks for the info stating that if I seeketh I shall findeth and for the lesson of reading past the first page of results.(Which I almost never do)

:t

Thnx to Cyber101 for getting this thread started;)

[x51out]

:-@

[Hearie]

Just a little PostScript to this, and someone correct me if I am wrong about this conclusion.:)

The MO-BO MS-6182 ATX WH8 is a Slot 1 MO-BO, the Processor is a Socket 370 so I am using a Slot 1 adaptor card and I believe that there is where the failure lies. The CPU Card is prolly a generic and it has no jumpers on it. So I am guessing that the card doesn't support the 100Mhz FSB that I need to OC the chip.

:(

Bryan

[BiG MiKeY]

consult ure manual im shure there is a fsb setting on the mobo somewhere since there prob not goin to make a mobo specifally to celerons atleast i think so.... well if u lost here is a link to the manual ofcourse in pdf form ms-6182 (http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/manual/mnu/spt_mnu_detail.php?UID=118)

[BiG MiKeY]

i decided to go the extra mile and dl the pdf file...... and take a glance..... u wanna locate the J2 jumpers there between the processor cartridge and the agp slot.... u want to remove the top jumper out of the 2 sets of jumpers..... and i think ull be able to set it in the bios


look below screeny of manual

[BiG MiKeY]

j2 action

[Hearie]

Big Mikey- Look at that picture again and you will see one of the probs I have, they show they jumpers one on top the other in the manual(where they show you which jumper to set) but on the MO-BO thyey are side by side. Which you cxan also see in the illustration. So I don't know if they are flipping the jumper picture left or right or what. I have tried ALL combinations with the jumpers, no matter what it always freezes up during the POST. SOmetimes during the VGA Init, and sometimes during the processor init.

What I have tried:
-Setting just the jumpersall combinations) for the 100Mhz FSB(left BIOS alone)
-Setting jumper and changing the BIOS setting together(first BIOS then shut down then change jumper(J2) then power up...hangs...all J2 combinations)
-Tried the above with my Vic card in
-Tried above with just onboard Vid
-Even flashed my BIOS back to an older BIOS to see if that was the prob(Which brings up another question....BUT I will save that for someone else who has this MO-BO and has flashed their BIOS...if this is you please post here or PM me...thnx)

What I haven't tried:
-Yanking all but the bare necesities(sp?)(ie...modem, sound card, NIC card) see as I am hanging up on reboot before any of these devices are recognized(I think)
-Prolly a million other things that I just don't know about yet.

Please remember this is my first attempt to OC and it is entirely possible that I am missing a step that would seem like a no brainer to anyone else. Thnx again

Bryan

[x51out]

Wow, Hearie, you did all that?? My hat off to you. That is quite alot of hassle. Would be nice if I had that kind of diligence.;)

[Hearie]

x51out- That is just SOME of what I have tried!:)
And the next time my girlfriend starts to complain about me being on the computer to much I am gonna let her know that she should respect my DILEGENCE in matters!!!:mad: (Well maybe I'll tell her that without the attitude...;) )

[BiG MiKeY]

hmm this would be alot easier wit an amd lol...... anyhow.... we know ure cpu/mobo is good for the task....... wut ram are u running? ure gonna need something like pc100 .... and im hoping u have a descent PSU? hmm ill be bak lata if i can think of anything else


on a side note..... i dont mean to undermine ure determination at overclocking this system.... in fact its nice to c some one actually making an effort ..... but quite honestly dont think its time for a new rig? u can build ureself one hell of a rig (well atleast compared to ure currunt one) for about 400$ give or take

then u can give the machine to ure g/f so she can c y u spent so long on the comp.... j/k :p

[BiG MiKeY]

btw all is not lost u might be able to run that pc 66 ( if it is) at 100 speeds buy fiddeling around wit the settings.... if it was me id go wit the crappiest setting (higher numbas) and c wut the ram can do... if at all