gonna buy a flat panel need some help

[hoodedrat]

alright guys I've got 300 dollars I'm going to buy a 15 inch flat panel from newegg.com and I need to know what the best buy is going to be if anybody can help me please post replies

[AllGamer]

$300 can only afford you a Low Quality LCD

are you sure you want a LCD?

why not get a good 19" Flat CRT for the same price?

http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=130541

[bshplt]

if you want a good LCD I would go with a Samsung 171 MP.
But then again it`s 750$ here in US....

so you may want to put some money away instead of buying a15 LCD low quality, like Allgamer said.


Why not a NEC Fe99xx for 300$??

i love mine.

[mrt1212]

does quality really matter when all you are doing is running audio programs?

[hoodedrat]

i've already got a nice 19 inch crt but i want a flat panel for taking to lan parties and stuff cuz luggin the 19 around is gettin to be a pain

[AllGamer]

KMart and WalMart has some Samsung(i think) for $300 something

15" bug as i said quality is ..... lets just say, it leaves a lot do desire off.

so yeah you get your mediocre views, and stuff, but that's about it ;)

you get for what you paid for :p

[sm8000]

Unfortunately, $300 will only get you an entry-level LCD at best. I'd go for a nice flat-screen CRT monitor. You can get nice KDS 17" ones from Wal-Mart for less than that.

[AllGamer]

but he wants something Portable for LAN parties ;)

[sm8000]

I know, I read that. Thanks for the tip :rolleyes: . A 17" one won't be as bad to lug around now and again though. :p

[hoodedrat]

hmm... how about this one

ViewSonic 15" LCD Display Black Model VE155B - Retail
Type 15.0" color TFT active matrix XGA LCD
Display Area 12.0" (horizontal) X 9.0" (vertical); 15.0" diagonal
Brightness 250 cd/m² (typ)
Contrast Ratio 400:1 (typ)
Viewing Angle 120° horizontal, 100° vertical
Response Time 30ms (typ)
Light Source Long life, 50,000 hrs. (typ)

[ngc457]

i've already got a nice 19 inch crt but i want a flat panel for taking to lan parties and stuff cuz luggin the 19 around is gettin to be a pain

I hate flat panels for thier price and poor quality compared to CRT. But the reason above is a **** good reason to purchase a flat pannel as a second monitor if you attend lan parties a lot.

[hoodedrat]

yeah I constantly lan and I'm sick of carrying this thing around, even with the xbag its still a pain in the ***, i want a 15 inch flat panel for carrying around to them lans, I prolly wont even use it at home

[Rocketmech]

Since your going to use it for gaming , you need to keep"response time" or "pixel-response rate" in consideration.
The KDS 15" Rad-5 boasts 25ms, ViewSonic VE 155 , is 30ms . The Samsung 151S , which I think has the brightest screen , is 30ms .

[AllGamer]

RocketMatch has a good point

and that's Exactely why i don't like LCD much

cuz it feels... Sluggggish

due the slow optical responsetime :)

so if you can find a fast one, it should not be too bad

OH make sure that it has at least a refresh rate of 70 Hz and higher

some cheapo LCD can not change Hz

and for PICKY people like me anything on the 60 Hz range hurts the eyes :D

:t

[hoodedrat]

yah i've gotten used to this 85 hz and when i see anything under it my eyes hurt too, I think I'm just going to go ahead and get a viewsonic because a friend has a 17 inch and its pretty good so i might as well get that brand

[AllGamer]

I use ViewSonic too but CRT

i've used the 15" ViewSonic LCD, and i'm not happy with it

is not very good

is kind of Poor compared to the Good stuff i'm used to from Viewsonic CRTs

:t

by the way i did play games on it, and... well like i said before... did not live up to my expectations

maybe it'll work for you duuno

[Giblet Plus!]

Awww, just deal with it. I've got a friend with a 19" that goes to a whole bunch of LANs. :p

Although, a flat panel would be nice. . .

[causticVapor]

LCD viewage is more of an adaptation thing. It takes time before one really gets used to the advantages -- less flickering and the absence of a required refresh strobe. Although arguably LCDs output fewer candelas of light, the difference is offset by their discrete granularity. CRTs may have fewer issues with dot pitch displacement, but they have the added curvature which cannot be compensated for 100% (although many "flat face" ones come very close to that number).

LCDs are undoubtedly more fragile than their CRT brethren, yet at the same time are very lightweight and easy on the power source. Thus, they are good for people on transformers whose system's current draw is exceedingly high.

CRTs have uncontested distort-free resolution ranges that blow the doors off any LCD on the market. They also can be considerably cheaper at the same time, while producing more accurate imagery, which is critical in CAD and DCC applications.

There are advantages to electron guns and at the same time fixed matrices. The disadvantages are obvious as well -- color guns eventually fail and in the same time duration TFT components suffer electron migration.

Basically, if you are an average one who sits behind a monitor all day, get a good high-refresh CRT or an LCD. The LCD will be easier on your eyes, even though you might not be able to tell the difference. And as LCD illumination technology, TFT frequencies, and low-resolution averaging get better and better, along with decreased eventual manufacturing costs, it will be a no-brainer decision as to what you should buy.

But for now, if you want that nice high dynamic range and dot pitch advantage, go for the CRT by all means. :t


By the way - viewsonic's LCD was a disappointment, much unlike its award-winning series of CRTs. There are others other there from samsung, ilyama and LG, that provide stellar response time, brightness and clarity.

[hoodedrat]

alright I'll remember not to get viewsonic then, but like I said one of my friends has a 17inch viewsonic flat panel and it's soooo nice, but I can't afford that kinda price :(

[axle619]

CompUSA and Best Buy were doing massive rebates on Kogi 17' flat panels. I got a black, good looking 17" for $279 after $160 and $100 rebates. Yes, I am sure it is a cheapo, but for that price, you can buy two. If ya get a replacement plan, you can just trade 'em in at best buy if too many pixles die.

I'll tell ya, i was very pleased with mine. and sounds like just what ya want.

[hoodedrat]

whats a good response time on these things, and is higher or lower better?

[BipolarBill]

http://www.tomshardware.com/display/20030221/index.html