What will the anti-war people think when....

[jw33]

...if/when we go to remove Sadam and his cronies from the gene pool and our guys get hit with a NBC attack? What about when Iraq dumps/burns all the oil it can before we can stop them? And what about the POW's he will torture on video?

Will Sean Penn and Jane Fonda their go over and make things better? I can't wait to hear what Jesse Jackson and Jacques Chirac have to say then.

[Billforce]

Will Sean Penn and Jane Fonda their go over and make things better? I can't wait to hear what Jesse Jackson and Jacques Chirac have to say then. [/B][/QUOTE]

These Hollywood idiots are so into themselves and their importance to the world, they can´t see beyond their publicity agents.

I attended a Navy League meeting a few years back and the speaker was Pappy Boyington, WW11 ace and war prisoner.
He was the role model for ¨Black Sheep Squadron¨,starring Robert Conrad. When the show was criticized for not being authentic he Quoted. This is entertainment, not a documentary.
¨You know Conrad is a pretty macho guy, but try as we may, he wouldn´t let us shoot real bullets at him.¨.

You do realize of course that Jane Fonda had more time in Viet Nam than Bill Clinton, she made one trip. The only thing the Hollywood crowd shoots off is their mouths.

[ronach]

Sounds like you ,[ shall we say, HAVE ONE ON ] for the anti-war folks, thank god at least a few people don't have their heads up you know where. By the way allow me to make a slight addition to one of your sentences; [ What about when Iraq dumps/burns all the oil it can before we can stop them AGAIN?] Too many people forget, what a shame, they are prime targets for the [ Arab/muslim psy-war technicians ] that seem to dominate forums like this, and many others around the world. These people for your information are very easy to identify, they hide behind Pseudo names that will disguise their true ethnic/religious backgrounds, they never have anything good to say about any coalition partner, heh, just the opposite, they never mention anything about terrorist activities, heh, that ones obvious, they badmouth all other religions when possible, then they say all kinds of good stuff about theirs, hmmm. They operate in groups and actually team up on threads, you've all seen them in operation, but just didn't catch the connection. Watch them try to flame me for exposing their activities, let's see just how ignorant they are, oh by the way, they can't spell worth a **** or construct sentences very well. There you go. ronach

[Bigjakkstaffa]

...if/when we go to remove Sadam and his cronies from the gene pool and our guys get hit with a NBC attack? What about when Iraq dumps/burns all the oil it can before we can stop them? And what about the POW's he will torture on video?

We'll simply say if you hadnt provoked him he wouldnt have done it :p

--Jakk:t

[maje87c]

hey ronach, you forgot to mention the communist sleeper agents.

[ronach]

From just about any group you could imagine, our society is like a sieve you know, but I'm not losing any sleep over it. Our security people pick them up all the time, why just recently they collared a korean guy and his wife, awhile back they picked up a chinese guy up in Los Alamos, an Israeli before that, not to mention our own turncoats, and last but not least a slew of Arabs trying to sneak across from canada up on the rainbow bridge, and down Tiaquana way on the mexican border, heh, what's new.

What was it they called those people back in the 60's, commies, pinkos, gotta be a few others. I have to think real hard now to coin a name for the present dimwits, that reside in our society that can't see the forest for the trees. Come on guys, give me some help here, you must have some ideas? ronach

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Communism (well Marxism) as a structuralist theory is VERY sensical, in the action sense though it has never been implemented properly or successfully, one main reason in this being greed inherint in society. Before you go slagging ideology's off you should probably take soem time to look at them.

--Jakk:t

[Tony2005]

tellme more about this Marxism jakk - u were talking about it in an earlier thread -

[Bigjakkstaffa]

you got PM

--Jakk:t

[Tony2005]

quite intersting stuff - too bad it wasnt implented correctly or for the right reaons

[Bigjakkstaffa]

http://www.anu.edu.au/polsci/marx/classics/manifesto.html

You might want to read that, if you got LOTSof time spare that is:x

--Jakk:t

[Tony2005]

:eek: how on earth did u find time to read that - dont say u get a 3 month holiday!

[Bigjakkstaffa]

I aint read it all yet, im gonna buy the book form instead, but ATM ive got about 20 novels to get through before i do :x

--Jakk:t

[j.m@talk]

Unless somone shoots you on the meantime of course ! :p

[jad1097]

You do realize of course that Jane Fonda had more time in Viet Nam than Bill Clinton, she made one trip


Please remind me how much time Bush spent there. :rolleyes:

[rubdfsh2?]

The Bush War record (http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2003/02/ma_217_01.html)


Umm, yeah.

[jad1097]

We should be honored to have a veteran such as him acting as president. I wonder what he would have done without his daddy. I know what he would have done; time in the Federal pen and received a Dishonorable Discharge for desertion!




885. ART. 85. DESERTION
(a) Any member of the armed forces who--
(1) without authority goes or remains absent from his unit, organization, or place of duty with intent to remain away there from permanently;
(2) quits his unit, organization, or place of duty with intent to avoid hazardous duty or to shirk important service; or
(3) without being regularly separated from one of the armed forces enlists or accepts an appointment in the same or another on of the armed forces without fully disclosing the fact that he has not been regularly separated, or enters any foreign armed service except when authorized by the United States; is guilty of desertion.
(b) Any commissioned officer of the armed forces who,after tender of his resignation and before notice of its acceptance, quits his post or proper duties without leave and with intent to remain away there from permanently is guilty of desertion.
(c) Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct, but if the desertion or attempt to desert occurs at any other time, by such punishment, other than death, as a court-martial may direct.




What's worse a deserter or a draft dodger?

[jad1097]

What, nobody wants to comment on how their new hero was a deserter. If it were Clinton you guys would be all over it.

[chuckiechan]

Without a doubt, he was a child of privilage but this hit piece is just a rant about his privilages and the favors done by powerful people for other powerful people's kids. What does that have to do with today? Your hatered of Bush is making you look as if you will let Saddam off the hook rather than let Bush be President. Yes, he didn't win the popular vote, Gore did. But the Presidency is decided by electoral votes. Get over it, it's in the Constitution, you can't change it.

We have issues in this world that threaten the well being of this country's way of life (freedom, prosperity, opportunity). This country has a tradition of sacrificing to further democracy and freedom in other countries. We are doing this with an all volunteer army so you aren't even in harms way, unless someone comes and squirts poison on you! If you are against spreading our ideas around the globe, you will have the chance next election to vote for a fellow traveler you can agree with. Maybe even volunteer to be on the anti-rich-boy-president-by-luck comittee. There is always a home for dissenters!

EDIT: Everyone knew what a scum bag Clinton was before he was elected. The Republicans walked away from California during that election due to the strong showing of Ross Perot. Perot's third party candidacy was the reason Clinton was president.

[jad1097]

I do not hate Bush but I do dislike him. One of the reasons I dislike him is because he is anti-union and is trying to destroy the unions. I do not feel this war is necessary atm. Maybe they will be able to convince me a war is necessary in the near future but as of yet they have not. I did support the gulf war because it was just IMO. I do have a problem with a deserter running our country. I do have a problem when our president had a DUI and the VP had two. I have so many reasons not to like the guy that are factual it is pitiful.


What it has to do with today is that if he did not receive preferential treatment he would have have become president.


As far as the election is concerned I think it was no coincidence that it happened in FL where his brother is Governor.

Not everyone in the military wants to go to war.


I don't know where everyone keeps getting the idea that this war is to free the people of Iraq. Thats as much BS as anything else I have heard about it.

[chuckiechan]

I read the article. He did not desert, he was transferred or tdy'd (temporary duty elsewhere, for you non military types). But no not desertion, sorry.

DUY's are bad. GWB dosen't drink anymore. Do you hate people who drink? Or do you just hate people who get busted for drinking and driving?

All of that preferental treatment made him president? Not Al Gore's lack of electoral votes? The governor only got one vote, as opposed to the democrat's get out the vote march: go down two names and punch there. (can't read, vote is still legal?). Sorry your boys got confused! Blame the ballot.

The military does what it is told. It dosen't matter that some disagree. I know, they joined for school and training. What's this war stuff?

Yes, we are freeing the people of Iraq. When Sadam is gone, the people will be given back their public institutions so they can re-create thier country's political and economic infrastructure.

I wish we still had a draft. Everyone should get to feel a little fear! Find out what is really important in your life...

:)

[jad1097]

I tired to join when I turned 18 but was turned around because I was a HS dropout. I would have liked to serve but was not giving the opportunity to. Am I supposed to fear joining the military because of some draft or is it that they teach you fear? I do know what fear is. I did not grow up in the nicest neighborhood. I know what it is like to be shot at and hear the bullets zip past me, I have had guns pointed in my face and I have the hell beat out of me by a group of people more than once. Perhaps you would like to be one of the 5% white kids in your school and have to fear being jumped while walking home every afternoon. Nice thing for a 12 year old to go threough every day, isn't it. Do not judge me because you do not have a clue what I have been through in my life. As a matter of fact I think the military would have giving me the discipline that I lacked which may have improved my life drastically, at least at the time anyway. So don't give me that you should have served BS! They should have taken this bright kid off the streets and helped him if anything!


Why would I hate people who drink when I drink on occasion and used to be a drunk? Idiots get drunk and then drive. Drinking and driving is not the same as drunk driving regardless of what you think. It is possible to drink and drive and not be drunk.



All the preferential treatment made it possible for him to run for president. If he did time for desertion I do not think he would have been able to run for president.


Bush did NOT report for duty! That is desertion. I'll find another link if I have a chance to. I have to dig through too many to find it. It gets old auguring the same points to the blind all the time.



January 1971:
The Guard begins testing for drugs during physicals.

Spring 1971:
Hired by Texas agricultural importer, Bush uses F-102 to shuttle tropical plants from Florida.


May 26, 1972:
Transfers to Alabama Guard unit so he can work on Senator William Blount's reelection campaign. According to his commanding officer, Bush never shows up for duty while in Alabama, nor can anyone confirm he ever serves in the Guard again.

August 1972:
Bush is grounded for missing a mandatory physical.

November 1972:
Bush returns to Houston, but never reports for Guard duty

[chuckiechan]

Did you know you used "I" 16 times? When you are part of things you use the word "We".

Go back and get your GED. You won't reget it. And join up if you want, but learn to accept others' greatness and you may someday find your own.

'nuff said...

[jad1097]

Yes, I am aware of how many times I used the word I. I did it intentionally. I like using the word I. I do not have a problem with it. I do know what the excessive use of the word I says about someone, that is why I use it as often as I do. I do know that I am tired of arguing with people about stupid things. I do not need a GED unless I want to further my education. I do not have the time to go to school. I do not want to further my education at this moment. If I decide to I will then take the GED test. I think the fact that I make $20 an hour plus benefits without a decent education is great. The schools I went to were not worth a ****. I know too many people who graduated HS and college who are dumber than a box of rocks. I do fine considering I dropped out at the age of 15.


I think you are just trying to insult my intelligence and **** me off. I will be using the word I from now on just to aggravate you. I think I am done for the moment but I may not be.



I is singular, we is plural. We did not do all those things now did we. There was no need for the word we AFAIC. *edit I don't really care if I am right or wrong. It does not matter to me.

I will let you count the I's again because I will not be bothered with it.



I am LOL because I find all this I stuff to be funny. OK, I am done for now but I.....I.....I :p :)




We are going to refill our cup of coffee now. Or am I going to? I will have to ponder about who we are while I will refill it.


Have a nice day. And thank you for caring. :D