Stoopid Question

[Ammok]

You get pc2100 and 2700 and 3200 which are 266, 333 and 400 mhz respectively. Why not call them pc266,333,400 etc and the intel pc800 beats the life out of me.

Why do they use this convention and not a simple one for dummies like me.?

What is the actual logic behind the convention?

Please help, doing me tree in, how you supposed to overclock successfully when they keep confusing the issue. KISS, i say.

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Why do they use this convention and not a simple one for dummies

Because theryre trying to beintellectually superior by talking BS perhaps :confused:

Beats the hell outta me too, i refer to em as PC266/333/400 myself, its easier that way

--Jakk:t

[Midknyte]

The manufacturers wanted to differentiate between 168pin SD DIMMs and 184 pin DDR DIMMs. consumers would get confused if they kept using the same naming convention.

pc66, pc100, pc133 = sdr
pc2100, pc2700, etc. = ddr

[Ammok]

LOL

cheers Midknyte, i'm glad they did not set out to make it difficult to understand. I do the same Jakk, 333 or 400 is much easier for me to understand.:)

[Midknyte]

I think they're also trying to make the consumer think it's a whole lot better. what sounds better to you 333 or 2700?? it's all a marketting thing. I really don't give a **** either way. :)

[Billforce]

HHHMMMM! I think it is called Marketing!

[AlexGee]

I think they are trying to AVOID confusion LOL

I'm no expert so correct me if I'm wrong:

PC 133 runs at 133 mhz - so does PC 266! but since it is DDR it does work on rising and falling cycle, so it is EFFECTIVELY 266. If a noob buys PC 400 he goes right into BIOS and trys to find a setting for 400mhz, instead he finds FSB setting for 200 mhz and ends up calling tech support to complain.

So to avoid this problem you can start refering to the bandwidth. I prefer just using 2100, 2700 3200 and so on, for this reason but this has problems too of course . . . LOL. Now the name tells you nothing about what speed to set for FSB in BIOS. It's just a mess right now.

[causticVapor]

Some stores sell memory as "PC266" instead of "DDR266"... and some people call PC2100 "DDR2100"... then you have the issue of the SPD chip setting the frequency a notch lower. This makes it tricky for beginners. They also think that their memory runs at a base clock 266, not 133, and get dazed, confused, and angry.

I knew a system integrator who once told me, "Man I want that ultra-fast memory... PC2100 RDRAM or whatever it's called." :eek: If someone gets confused and divides the number by two, they'll get 1050. "Oh well, that's close enough to 1066." So they buy, attempt to install it, and, oops. :p


And what makes it worse is that single-channel RDRAM DIMMs are named by clock-doubled specs instead of bandwidth. What sounds like it is better to the n00b? PC1066 RDRAM or PC1600 DDR? Which provides more bandwidth? The former, obviously, by nearly a factor of three. Then to fix this little thing rambus converged the busses into one and actually labeled them by bandwidth... PC4200 or "RIMM 4200"...



To put it bluntly, if I was a n00b in search of memory I'd be confused as hell. (The crucial crossword ad is very, very true.)

[Ammok]

I am not surprised that noob's get confused, one common convention is obviously too much to ask for. At least AMD kept the socket A fairlycommon and I like that. Good company that caters for easily confused people.:)

[Bigjakkstaffa]

The socket formats changing for the 64bit CPU's though :p


(whenever the hell they decide to turn up :rolleyes: )

--Jakk:t

[Billforce]

There is no standardization in the industry including nomenclature.
I use different cases for diff. customers and find that none of them conform to anything. Some have wires all over the place with no legend or instructions for front usb or headset etc. Some are not even color coded or marked. Some have wires for non existing peripherals. Others have the wires too long or too short. I at times have to resort to making some parts to accomodate some items. MADDENING!

[RamonGTP]

The 2100, 2700, etc etc naming conventions reffer to the memory bandwidth... PC2100 can transfer up to 2.1GB/s 2700 is 2.7GB/s. You get the idea. But I do agree that PC266, PC333, PC400 would have been a better choice.