Voodoo3 or TNT2? Which is better??

[drizzle]

What do you think is a better card as far as gaming goes? Graphics, FPS, maxiumum compatibility, etc.

[AuraEdge]

Grafics - TNT2 by a long shot

FPS - V3 by a little bit on older games, TNT2 by a good margin on newer games like q3test

Compatability - V3 by a tiny little bit.

Price - V3

Most features - TNT2

[Plaster]

It's completely opinion based. For me, the only reason I got a V3 is because I knew it was fast, and it wasn't expensive.

[Pollux]

why is the ultra a bottleneck for anything above a p3 450?
-pollux

[KillerBug]

Ok, I have not bought a card in 2 months, but I have a voodoo bachee. I could have gotten the same card, but in TNT for the same price, but I could never play some of my clasic Glide games again, and the wrappers are now illigal?

[AndreBranco]

i have a voodoo3 2000 agp card and the reason i bought it is because it can run all games and i will always buy 3dfx as long as all games use glide

[bighogjeep]

u replace a video card and probally a computer every 2 years so go with the voodoo3 3000 it will play all the games good for the next year at half the price of the tnt 2 then upgrade in 18 months isnt that what everyone else does here ?

[niun]

although I agree that the v3 is less expensive, I think you cheat yourself by not going with the power of the TNT2. sure it is more expensive but boy is it worth it! Unless of course you are playing pac man or something, but if you are going with quake3 or cstrike TNT2 all the way

[Vidfreek]

Again its all opinion based, and your not going to sway people away from what they want by saying that you wasted your money on a V3 and should have bought a TNT2. I got my V3 2000 for 90 bucks and it can be overclocked to at least the core speed of the V3 3000, all my friends have a V3, which entails about 12 people, One has a TNT, which used to be mine cause it was awful.

And there certainly isnt anyway that I would be happier if I bought a TNT2, since quake3 is the only game that really utilizes 32 bit stuff, there isnt too much point in saying you can see the difference because nothing uses true 32 bit textures yet except for that game. Plus with my new system Im getting a 550mhz machine, the TNT2 is now a bottleneck for anything above a pIII 450, so to get the same frame rates or maybe a little less in certain games than an Ultra TNT2, I would gladly spend less than the price of an Ultra TNT2 cause its not much of a benefit to me, which is what I did and I can play everything from doom to quake3 without a hitch, and the new drivers improve the image quality so much without loss in speed.

[CMonster]

My vote is for the TNT2, I have nothing against the V3s, they are awsome too, but I think 32 bit is most important for future compatibility - near future - and I think that it would probably be more than a couple years before I had to upgrade a 32MB AGP card.

However, I must confess that my opinion is based on on observation and research, not actual experience with the card.

Currently I have 2-Nvidia 128s/PCI and 1-RIVA TNT/AGP. I am happy with these cards for now, but they take a little long to initialize on startup. I also have an ATI Expert 98/PCI, and although it is a good card, I am the least happy with that one.

[Vidfreek]

Dont ask me why Pollux, but go check it out for yourself: www.anandtech.com (http://www.anandtech.com) , its the article on the P3 600 vs. the Athlon 600

[Nutcase]

I perfer the TNT2's they have more raw power. And I havent had any problems with my card so far as compatablility. In fact it has the 32 bit option which I feel will be used a lot more in the future. Then again everything is opinion in this matter.

[Kichigai]

V3 = more compatibility (Glide), better performance on slow CPUs, and a history of more stable driver releases.

TNT2 = faster under optimal conditions, better color-depth (32 vs. 16), and technically a more advanced product.

On the bad side, the V3 is older technology and the TNT2 typically requires more care and feeding.

[BBA]

OK, last weekend I built a PC from parts I bought at a computer show.

I got a OEM 16M TNT2 for $95, Viper 770. It clocked default to 125, but OC'd with TNTCLK to 150/170, with a exhaust PCI slot fan under it.

It performed almost as good as my TNT2 ULTRA at 175/200, I felt ripped.

Point is, the whole point about more exspensive than a V3 is not applicable, it's purely what you like, and I don't like 3DFX band affect in Q2, the V3 looks identical to the V2 SLI, and the TNT2 is much superior even in these old 16BIT games!

Two Cents, DAMNIT!

BBA

[Darth-Maul]

If you want my humble advice, I would say go for a TNT2 video card, and than get one or two Voodoo 2 cards for the glide performance. That way, there are no problems.

[Vidfreek]

well just to point out, the V3 does not look Identical to the V2 slied. the ramdac on the V3 is much higher, and the graphics quality of the new drivers from 3dfx removes all the banding in unreal and quake2, I myself have not noticed any banding in quake2 to begin with. V2's looked so bland and washed out, this has been fixed considerably with the V3. Have you actually seen one compared to a V2? Plus TNT2's and V3's performance in 16 bit is Identical, 3dfx just needs to get their opengl ICD tweaked enough for the best performance.

You can like whatever you want but dont go bashing something without knowing what your talking about.

[Raven]

GET THE VIPER 770 TNT2 ULTRA NOW!

-Raven

[RobRich]

If you are a Super7 user, get a V3. If you run Intel, then go for a TNT2-U. I do this because 3dfx cards don't use AGP texturing, so they are slightly more stable on the scoket7 architecture. The TNT2-U also likes a powerful floating point unit (regardless of 3dnow! optimiztions), which Intel uses. At any rate, I wonder what will happen when the v4 and the nv10 hit the market. I actually believe nVidia will overtake the 3d market, because of hardware T&L, which the v4 most likely will not have. I've always supported 3dfx, but their voodoo design is an aging technology. They need to do a complete redesign to stay current. The real card to keep an eye on is the Glaze3d, if it ever makes it to the market. www.glaze3d.com (http://www.glaze3d.com)

[This message has been edited by RobRich (edited 08-12-99).]

[Plaster]

Glaze3D is vaporware. NV10 and V4 are vaporware. Nobody outside the respective companies knows what's going to be on these cards. Who is to say that the NV10 will have T&L? NVidia didn't say it will or won't. People listen to rumors far to much. When the new cards come, we'll see what they have onboard. Til then, we're in the dark.