T h e K i s s S y s t e m

[TechJumper]

What Is the Kiss System?

The Kiss System is an idea that birthed almost a year ago.

It is just an idea, and there are others like it, but I have faith in this one, and wanted to try it out on SysOpt to see if the shoe really does fit.

Device-Concentric homes are the future of technology, and voice recognition is going to be the median used to communicate to these advanced machines.

Device-concentric means all the devices are online, and able to be manipulated from a centralized or remote location via the internet or Wireless LAN. This technology is here, but the broadband connection isn't. Like Trains, we have the trains, but no tracks. Once the wire is laid, device-concentricity will become the centerfold of every PC hardware site on the Internet.

The KissSystem is just that. A complete home, concentrically networked through the wall socket, or bluetooth networking.

I'm talking about home appliances, tv's palm top computers, etc...


The Kiss System itself will be the "Universal Remote" if you will. This device will conduct various operations around the house at your voice command while you are still driving home.

"Preheat oven to 350, and turn on the bath, like I like it..."


The future looks really exciting. I'm still REALLY developing my idea so I would love your suggestions and questions.


A good site to go to learn what little info there is on device centricity is DeviceTop.com and AllNetDevices.com, two comprehensive high tech news and information websites that will get you started in the right direction.


Best,

Michael

[GroundZero3]

i think compaq was researching the idea but soon dropped it. i hardly see this technology becoming popular very fast. due to the fact that the wiring and special appliances will not be on a lot of peoples top list. personally i see this technology as another way for humans to become even lazyier. like we need to be even more??

Jason

[This message has been edited by GroundZero3 (edited 03-02-2001).]

[TechJumper]

There is technology out there that lets you network through the wallsocket!!!


Whats missing: nothing


mICHAEL

[krusty the klown]

I think technology like that would be really useful for disabled or elderly people. For someone with limited mobility, it would be a real benefit to them if, for example, the fridge knew its contents and could re-order food online and advise if a piece of food was out of date.

For me, I'd just open the fridge door.

Personally, I couldn't be bothered with that sort of technology - I have a pair of functioning eyes: I can see if the fridge is full and I have the means to walk to the shop to replenish it if necessary.

For able-bodied people, it seems to me like it's technology for technology's sake. I use computers a lot, I have a TV, video, Sky, DVD player... but I also enjoy the simpler things in life: real food (none of this insipid microwave meal cr@p), real heat (woodburner), real booze and real smokes!

The TV is bad enough at keeping our lazy a$$es planted on the couch - we'd practically never need to leave the house!

[jeffpapier]

The k.i.s.s. system, that's an engineering concept(K.eep I.t S.imple S.tupid). It keeps the newbies from overdesigning excess, like electric windows and door locks in cars that short-out under water. OH! OH! TOO LATE!
Think about it what happens when the power goes out and there are no manual controls in the house.

[elroy]

How many of us have a vcr that has blinked 12:00 for the last 2 years? I spend tremendous amounts of time just maintaining, fixing, upgrading my 2 PC's. Sure the web and email are great but these computers don't save me any time in the long run.

[Bovon]

In the late 60s or early 70s there was a blurb in Popular Mechanics I think?...not sure now, but it was about a "new" concept that would place a cable with sensors in the middle of the driving lanes on highways. With this new technology, you could get on a super highway, set your auto on automatic, and for how long to stay on automatic (one hour, two hours, ect) and take a nap.

The sensors would keep you a safe distance from the auto in front...and you would just drive along. If anything went haywire with the car in front, you would come to a stop as well with the cars behind. If you wanted to get off, or change lanes...you simply took yours off automatic, and went your merry way. This was sort of an auto pilot for cars.

Of course, that never happened...and may never happen on our congested highways...but...it was a real-life futurity concept at the time.

Think about it tho... IF there was a highway, say...going east and west, and/or north and south with limited access every 200 miles or so, and the only vehicles that could use this 'very limited' highway, were those so equiped with the 'auto pilot' for cars/trucks...going across country would be a snap.

Well, I dream too sometimes... http://www.sysopt.com/forum/biggrin.gif

[This message has been edited by Bovon (edited 03-11-2001).]

[jagman]

I think it was supposed to be a magnetic strip or something not a cable any way they are now trying the idea with optical sensors which could work any where .

[IFReeman]

Bill Gates used something similar when his new house(its not a house its a resort!) was constructed. He used computers to control many of the functions within the house.

This is by no means a new idea and I think it will stay as an option for only the really rich and wealthy. People nowadays are doing less and less exercise as it is, without taking away the need to walk to the fridge, oven, bath etc.

Yes it would be a nice novelty to have, and has been already mentioned would be very useful for elderly and disabled poeple, but not all of us have that sort of money, so I think it will just remain a dream for some of us.

Regards Iain

[rockjockjared]

In regards to Bill Gates house I really liked the lighting system. It was nice how the lights followed him through the house. As for the fridge and oven, I think it's a little excessive to have them remotely controlled. But I'm sure to some people it would be a necessity. Handicapped and the senior community could definately use something like that to make their life a little easier. But for the able-bodied I see no need for such contraptions.

I just read all the posts...Krusty and I think too much alike!

[This message has been edited by rockjockjared (edited 03-27-2001).]

[King_Kooba_Fantastique]

Great ideas, however i would hope that the manual back-up be kept, we cant rely 100% on technology.

KKF.

[U-96]

Bovon, I think a German company (Audi, Mercedes or BMW) actually have that system working on a stretch of Autobahn somewhere as a trial.
It's only recently that the computing power has been available to provide enough safety measures and control systems to make it practical.

Factory drones have been following tracks in warehouses for decades now, but at 2mph http://www.sysopt.com/forum/biggrin.gif

I'm sure there must be some details around somewhere...

[Ed_S]

I think it will stay as an option for only the really rich and wealthy. ...not all of us have that sort of money, so I think it will just remain a dream for some of us.

Yes that is out of context, but I wanted to remind how fast technology moves these days, and becomes affordable. And the pace is accelerating.

Two cases in point: Television & microwave ovens. In 1950 only upper-middle class families could afford ONE TV. By the latter 60's almost everyone had one, and by now it's very common to see one in every room...with cable!
Likewise microwaves, but faster. Back in 1980 they were huge, and expensive enough to be considered a "major appliance". By 1995, they were compact and relatively cheap. Now they're cheaper yet.

And what about vcr's, CD players, etc...
Or computers. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

Point is that if a system catches on while it's high-end, high dollar, it can go from "luxury" to "neccessity" in a few years. And as the volume of sales go up, the price goes down.

Personally, I don't see a need for the automated home systems yet. But when it comes, and it will, I'll probably end up with it.

Ed

[mourikise]

Well, I think this kind of technology (I'm not sure about KISS in specific) will be used in the near future. At home it will take a few years till then, but in business things are different. Many companies adopt such technologies in their new big buildings in order to save power (by lighting and climating only the offices that are in use) and to control better their employees (eg some people are not permit to access some areas, etc). This happens even here in Greece, where it is supposed that we are a litle back in technology.

What I see is that what the future will bring will be much different as well as same with today's expectations. For example, maye there are no computer-controlled highways, but the cars ARE partially controlled by computers. See ABS and other technologies that are widely used in the industry.

So, I don't know if we will open the oven's door remotely from our PCs, but maybe it will be controlled by a chip that will add some extra functions or enhance the existant ones. One example is fuzzy logic in the washing machines and air-conditioning. Recently, I read an article about Cyborgs! The writer was telling that while people a few years before imagined that tommorow's robots will be a micture of human and machines, today this seems something rediculous and absolutely non-real (do you see any cyborg around???). But if you think of it deeper, you'll see that WE are cyborgs. Mobiles, palmtops, laptops, PCs are some of the 'technical' parts of ourselves that either we carry them with us, or we use thm evey day and everywhere we are!

All I want to say with the above example is that many (but not all) of the today's technology theories will become a reality in the (near??) future either exactly as they are imagined now, or in an other form that can be totally different with what we imagine now.

Just thinking loudly.... http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by mourikise (edited 04-20-2001).]