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stix_kua

12-31-2002, 04:58 AM

Okay guys,

In two months I'm purchasing a DVD Drive and a Video Card.

I've selected the DVD Drive already.

The problem is that I'm on a budget of $120. I don't want a super high-end card at all (meaning, no ATI Radeon 9700). I want a PCI video card with at least 64MB of Video Ram. That's all I ask, does any one have any suggestions. The DVD drive is about $40-50.

However if you have a really good offer somewhere, et me know so i can check it out. thanks guys:D

sm8000

12-31-2002, 11:39 AM

PowerColor Radeon 9000 PCI. As I've learned here at Sysopt, all ATi cards have DVD hardware decoding. It's also the only PCI card that fully supports DirectX 8.1 and OpenGL 1.3, and it has 64MB of DDR. $99 on Pricewatch.

Bigjakkstaffa

12-31-2002, 12:41 PM

Yup - if DVD's your priority go for the Ati

--Jakk:t

AllGamer

12-31-2002, 12:42 PM

But make sure to get "BUILD BY ATI" cards

and not the "Powered by ATI" !!

big difference :t

sm8000

12-31-2002, 01:15 PM

I believe that PowerColor card is the only Radeon 9000 card in PCI format. ATi's website doesn't even mention Radeon 9000 in PCI versions, other than to say that they don't make them that way themselves but perhaps other builders do.

AllGamer

12-31-2002, 01:38 PM

ATI DVD is only supported in the AGP bus, not on the PCI, so then what he wants wont work at all

is best to get the Creative Drx3 combo with the creative DVD drive

:t

sm8000

12-31-2002, 01:53 PM

stix_kua

01-01-2003, 12:04 AM

hey guys, I decided to get a DVD-drive from Benq for $50 and I will get an ATI Radeon 7000 64MB PCI Video Card and use PowerDVD software to decode the DVDs.

But thanks guys...:D

KraZy_SkitZy

01-01-2003, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by AllGamer
ATI DVD is only supported in the AGP bus, not on the PCI, so then what he wants wont work at all

is best to get the Creative Drx3 combo with the creative DVD drive

:t

Ummmm.. What about the Rage Pro PCI, and Rage 128 PCI, and what about the Radeon VE PCI, (and you get the point) they all have that nice piece of work the Rage Theatre chip on them, which is their core to beaughtiful TV out and DVD acceleration.
The only newer ATI's that may not have DVD acceleration are maybe the OEM or 3rd party cards.. :t

stix_kua

01-02-2003, 11:04 PM

well i bought the drive and i love it...the vid card, I will wait to see.

I presently have some built-on card with 32 MB which is pretty decent.

I think AllGamer is wrong on this one(about the PCI cards not supporting DVD) because I contacted ATI and they do.

sm8000

01-03-2003, 12:01 PM

I agree. PowerColor's website says the Radeon 9000 PCI does hardware DVD:

http://www.power-color.com/html/rv25p-b3.html

I'm going to a Super Computer Sale in a little while. Hope to find one!

KraZy_SkitZy

01-03-2003, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by stix_kua
well i bought the drive and i love it...the vid card, I will wait to see.

I presently have some built-on card with 32 MB which is pretty decent.

I think AllGamer is wrong on this one(about the PCI cards not supporting DVD) because I contacted ATI and they do.

Everyone has their day.

:r

But not very often is AllGamer got his ATI facts wrong... Lucky I'm Here! ;)

stix_kua

01-03-2003, 02:47 PM

then again, he is human,

humans make mistakes...

an I think that ATI would know more about its product than the person who purchases it...

AllGamer

01-03-2003, 03:22 PM

i just repeating what i got from ATI software when you try to install their DVD software in the PCI models, it wont allow you cuz it says you need AGP

so that's my point

technically yeah PCI should have no problem supporting DVD, but their own software, when you install it says that it requires AGP

lol :p :x

$1500-P4 gamer

01-03-2003, 06:31 PM

"The only newer ATI's that may not have DVD acceleration are maybe the OEM or 3rd party cards.."

Thats a big maybe as I have yet to see one 3rd party ati without the ati thatre chip. On the other hand I have a rage 128 16mb Built By ATI here (pci) with NO theatre chip on it. Go figure? Im sure all the newer ones have it though. Its one of ATI's selling points, best dvd playback (hardware) and tv out quality for the $. Thats all due to the ATI Theatre chip.:D

KraZy_SkitZy

01-03-2003, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by AllGamer
i just repeating what i got from ATI software when you try to install their DVD software in the PCI models, it wont allow you cuz it says you need AGP

so that's my point

technically yeah PCI should have no problem supporting DVD, but their own software, when you install it says that it requires AGP

lol :p :x

I've Never Had that Problem, With Any PCI ATI Card :confused:

Originally posted by $1500-P4 gamer

Thats a big maybe as I have yet to see one 3rd party ati without the ati thatre chip. On the other hand I have a rage 128 16mb Built By ATI here (pci) with NO theatre chip on it. Go figure? Im sure all the newer ones have it though. Its one of ATI's selling points, best dvd playback (hardware) and tv out quality for the $. Thats all due to the ATI Theatre chip.

The 128 has some basic hardware DVd acceleration integrated into the Rage128 chip.

$1500-P4 gamer

01-03-2003, 07:47 PM

OK I see. So the 128 has intergrated dvd features in the GPU . IE not full hardware playback or a ati theatre chip cause no tv out and such. Makes sense then.:t

KraZy_SkitZy

01-03-2003, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by $1500-P4 gamer
OK I see. So the 128 has intergrated dvd features in the GPU . IE not full hardware playback or a ati theatre chip cause no tv out and such. Makes sense then.:t The Rage 128's DVD acceleration integrated into the GPU is still very much superior to the TNT, and Geforce 1-2 series.

stix_kua

01-03-2003, 11:04 PM

what about the Radeon 7000 PCI card with 64MB Ram?

that's what I have in mind because I don't want any fancy *****

sm8000

01-04-2003, 03:07 AM

7000? Why that and not this? Available at Newegg. Is it that fancy (sure it's got dual monitor and TV-Out)? Or pricey? I'm hoping to order it soon for my birthday. Get it before I do!

Originally posted by sm8000
PowerColor Radeon 9000 PCI. As I've learned here at Sysopt, all ATi cards have DVD hardware decoding. It's also the only PCI card that fully supports DirectX 8.1 and OpenGL 1.3, and it has 64MB of DDR. $99 on Pricewatch.

sm8000

01-04-2003, 08:58 PM

Of course, I will have to wait for it to become available....ETA Jan. 7th at newegg.com so I'm on auto-notify.

KraZy_SkitZy

01-04-2003, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by stix_kua
what about the Radeon 7000 PCI card with 64MB Ram?

that's what I have in mind because I don't want any fancy *****

The 7000 has DVD acceleration, at least get the 7200, cause it at least has T&L, without T&L now days leaves you SOL for todays games (plus it improves framerates, and makes games look better) :t