Problem... math problem

[racronus]

Okay, a guy has to walk 3000 miles. For each mile he walks he needs to consume 1 loaf of bread. He doesn't sleep or rest, he just keeps going, just think of him as a machine. He starts out with 3000 loaves of bread but he can only carry 1000 loaves at one time. If he tries to save as much bread as possible, how many loaves of bread does he have left over when he finishes his 3000 mile walk?

REVISED version:

Okay, a guy has to walk 1000 miles to reach a city. For each mile he walks he needs to consume 1 loaf of bread. He doesn't sleep or rest, he just keeps going, just think of him as a machine. He starts out with 3000 loaves of bread but he can only carry 1000 loaves at one time. If he tries to save as much bread as possible, how many loaves of bread does he have left over when he finishes his 1000 mile walk?

* if he leaves his bread somewhere they will not get stolen....
* assume he is going somewhere as in a straight line, not back and forth....

*left over bread reffers to the amount of bread he is able to take to the city, not the total left over

[DocEvi1]

is it just me or is this flawed...if he can only carry 1000 loaves of bread he can only walk 1000 miles (unless as he eats one, he gains one-dodgy logic tho)



Stefan

[bushmaster]

2,000 left over because he only took enough bread for 1,000 miles and was unable to finish the journey.

Would be the logical answer but my answer was as follows.
The man had nothing left because at the begining of his journey a large murder of ravenous crows flew overhead and spotted the bread and descended upon the man and his baked goods. They devoured all of the bread, and then upon seeing there was no bread left they became angered at the man and proceeded to viciously attack and kill him.
So except for a huge pile of crow droppings and a the mans picked clean skelatal remains there was nothing left.

[AllGamer]

LOL, i like Bush ideas the best so far :D

now back to a Logical analogy

if he can only travel 1 per 1 loaf

then he can do only 1000

so unless you had the stupid idea of him eating and recycling Shiit load of shiit loaf then there's simply no way he can complete the 3000, unless of course there's a Pit stop

Besides do you know how much weight 1000 is?

the guy wont make it past 1 before he's tired as hell and dies of stress after 2

:p not to mention Dirsty as hell cuz you know how hard is to swallow that stuff without a mouthful of any drink?

well pee maybe :x

[ukulele]

None if he ate 2000 loaves before he started and carried the rest. ;)

[AllGamer]

that's certaily possible

but with such a huge tummy wabbling like Homers, is rather hard to go 3000

:p :D

[Bovon]

Originally posted by racronus
Okay, a guy has to walk 3000 miles. For each mile he walks he needs to consume 1 loaf of bread. Elementary my dear Watson..he merely walked 1/2 mile out and one half mile back to the bread stockpile, ate one loaf and walked one half mile away and 1/2 half mile back, ate a loaf and repeated the process until 3000 miles AND all 3000 loaves of bread have been consumed.

Reread the statement...there was no provisions for the person to walk any special direction or how to walk those 3000 miles. You could walk 3000 (or more miles) by walking in a circle (or square) around the bread stockpile.

When I went to trade school many years ago, my electronics instructor had a neat saying RTDQ "read the dam question".

[Optimus Prime]

Originally posted by Bovon
Elementary my dear Watson..he merely walked 1/2 mile out and one half mile back to the bread stockpile, ate one loaf and walked one half mile away and 1/2 half mile back, ate a loaf and repeated the process until 3000 miles AND all 3000 loaves of bread have been consumed.

Reread the statement...there was no provisions for the person to walk any special direction or how to walk those 3000 miles. You could walk 3000 (or more miles) by walking in a circle (or square) around the bread stockpile.

When I went to trade school many years ago, my electronics instructor had a neat saying RTDQ "read the dam question".

:) neat.

[AllGamer]

So Who has the Closest Answer so far?

[bushmaster]

Me and da crows. hahahahahaha.

[Bovon]

If someone wants to add the 1000 loaves he can carry at a time into the equation, fine...he simply walks 500 out and 500 back...3 times.

[ukulele]

Originally posted by Bovon
If someone wants to add the 1000 loaves he can carry at a time into the equation, fine...he simply walks 500 out and 500 back...3 times.

He is an idiot. Nuff said!:x

[Aznmask]

Originally posted by Bovon
If someone wants to add the 1000 loaves he can carry at a time into the equation, fine...he simply walks 500 out and 500 back...3 times.

i was going to say that.... :D

[Bovon]

Hmmm, guess bubba racronus don't have an answer... or at least one he can type LOL...

[TARP2]

Here i am with calculations on my legal pad and Bovon has the answer.

Haha. Lets hear it racronus. :t

[BiG MiKeY]

flyin would be much easier and cheaper too then buyin 3000 loafs of bread :x :x :t

[$1500-P4 gamer]

This must be before the invention of gas and fast food resteraunts. Hehe, I agree with bovon its the most logical to this unlogical question. that make any sense. Oh no Ive gone cross eyed.:x

[ukulele]

No matter how he chooses to do it the answer can only be zero. He can eat 1 loaf and walk a half mile out and return. He can eat ten loaves and walk five miles and return He can carry 1000 loaves and walk out 500 miles and return but he cannot conserve any of it. The answer is always zero. Like gravity we don't need to know why it works, just how it works.

[$1500-P4 gamer]

Yes but we know how and why gravity works though.:p

[ukulele]

Originally posted by $1500-P4 gamer
Yes but we know how and why gravity works though.:p

OK genious. Tell us all why gravity works. I'll put you in for the Nobel prize. ;)

[Bovon]

Originally posted by ukulele
OK genious. Tell us all why gravity works. I'll put you in for the Nobel prize. ;) There ya go...I had a friend that worked on discovering the answer to gravity. If that can be discovered, an anti-gravity system can be had...with an anti-gravity device, the galaxy is just homebase. Unfortunately, he passed away several years ago...he was smart, a dreamer of things to come...worked for NASA at one time as an electrical engineer, and proved (to me at least) that 'dreams' may lead to reality...if you have guts enough to follow yours.

[$1500-P4 gamer]

Originally posted by ukulele


OK genious. Tell us all why gravity works. I'll put you in for the Nobel prize. ;)

Hmmm put some water in a bucket. OK if you turn it upside down it all runs out right. Tya, so if you pick it up and spin it while tipping it it doesnt fall out right. Hmm centrifigal force is just like gravity. The earth rotates we are stuck to it just like the water in the bucket. So what dont you understand?

PS I never said I fully understand it. But its not like its impossible sheesh. We've already defeated gravity by making a plane drop altitude rapidly havent we.;)

[ukulele]

Originally posted by $1500-P4 gamer


Hmmm put some water in a bucket. OK if you turn it upside down it all runs out right. Tya, so if you pick it up and spin it while tipping it it doesnt fall out right. Hmm centrifigal force is just like gravity. The earth rotates we are stuck to it just like the water in the bucket. So what dont you understand?

PS I never said I fully understand it. But its not like its impossible sheesh. We've already defeated gravity by making a plane drop altitude rapidly havent we.;)

LMAO! If it wasn't for gravity in the first place centrifigal force would throw you off the planet. Some people think there is no gravity and the Earth sucks. :D

[racronus]

sorry I wrote the problem wrong, read the revised version for the problem

so far my answer is 668 loaves but I don't have a equation for it, I plugged in random numbers so it's probably flawed.

[bushmaster]

We've already defeated gravity by making a plane drop altitude rapidly havent we.
Actually it's only simulating a lack of gravity because the aircraft abruptly changes direction leaving the contents of the aircraft to continue their directed momentum momentarily. Somewhat like slamming your car into an imobile object at 70mph while sitting inside unrestrained. Guess where your going.

[Bovon]

He grabs 1000 loaves, walks out 500 miles, leaving one loaf behind at every mile interval. At the 500 mile mark, he leaves 500 loaves and walks back, eating one loaf per mile he dropped off during the outbound trip. When he reaches the beginning, he grabs 1000 more loaves and walks back to the 500 mile mark, eating 1 loaf per mile. He now is at the 500 mile mark with 1000 loaves of bread onhand and only 500 miles to go. He now walks on to the city, 500 miles away and arrives with 500 spare loaves of bread, and 1000 loaves still at the starting point.!!! The answer to the question (as stated) is 1500 loaves of bread.

Of course, the answer could be different with fewer loaves of bread left over if the problem had been so written that the leftover loaves must all be at one place. Care to "rewrite" it again?

[racronus]

Originally posted by Bovon
He grabs 1000 loaves, walks out 500 miles, leaving one loaf behind at every mile interval. At the 500 mile mark, he leaves 500 loaves

if he drops 500 loaves on the way to the 500 mile mark, he also needs to consume 500 loaves on the way there, then he won't have 500 loaves to leave at the 500mile mark.

[ukulele]

If he walked off with 1000 loaves and ate one for each mile the answer would still be zero, because he would not have the other 2000 loaves if they were in another place. He could however get there with 500 loaves if he was really determined.

[bushmaster]

C'mon guys, can't we just stick with my crow theory ?.

[ukulele]

Originally posted by racronus


if he drops 500 loaves on the way to the 500 mile mark, he also needs to consume 500 loaves on the way there, then he won't have 500 loaves to leave at the 500mile mark.


Hmmmmm... Damned logical I'd say. ;)

[Bovon]

Originally posted by racronus


if he drops 500 loaves on the way to the 500 mile mark, he also needs to consume 500 loaves on the way there, then he won't have 500 loaves to leave at the 500mile mark. OOOOPSS Somehow, I just knew them Budweisers were getting to me. :p

[Bovon]

Define the following...he can take to the city, or he must take to the city.

*left over bread reffers to the amount of bread he can take to the city, not the total left over

[fluffycow]

its 58

[racronus]

Originally posted by Bovon
Define the following...he can take to the city, or he must take to the city.

*left over bread reffers to the amount of bread he can take to the city, not the total left over

the amount of bread that the man is able to take to the city with him

[Swordfish]

actually i thought and thought...gave it some more thought....and came to the conclusion that the question itself is wrong

;) :D

[the xenon]

I heard the problem before and i think it suppose to be about a monkey and some bananas ;)

[racronus]

IF YOUR HEAD HURTS DON'T READ THIS!

Here's what I got so far

The man walks toward the city 1 mile carrying 1000 loaves. Arriving at the mile mark he consumes 1 loaf, leaving 999 loaves at the 1 mile mark. He goes back to the starting point and consumes 1 loaf of bread. He is now left with 2998 loaves total.

This process is repeated again so that 2 more loaves are consumed and 999 more loaves are dropped off at the 1 mile mark. total loaves = 2996

Now he takes the remaining 998 to the mile mark, and then consumes 1 more loaf, leaving a total of 2995 loaves of bread.

For every 1 mile he moves foward he must make 2.5 round trips, 3 going out and 2 coming back to the previous mile. Each mile requires a consumption of 5 loaves of bread.

This process keeps going until he reaches 2000 loaves of bread. At this point he only needs to make 1.5 round trips, 2 going out and 1 coming back, the consumption rate now is 3 loaves per mile.

When he has 1001 loaves left, he will not need to make round trips back and forth anymore, he keeps going toward the city until he reaches it, consuming 1 loaf of bread per mile.

I don't think it's 668 loaves... I need to recheck

[AllGamer]

I think this whole thing is NUTS :x

it's got to be a fool, to do such an idiotic work out

LOL :r

[ConfusedAlien]

its friggen alg2 jeez
not trial and error lol

[mireland]

Originally posted by racronus
IF YOUR HEAD HURTS DON'T READ THIS!

Here's what I got so far

The man walks toward the city 1 mile carrying 1000 loaves. Arriving at the mile mark he consumes 1 loaf, leaving 999 loaves at the 1 mile mark. He goes back to the starting point and consumes 1 loaf of bread. He is now left with 2998 loaves total.

This process is repeated again so that 2 more loaves are consumed and 999 more loaves are dropped off at the 1 mile mark. total loaves = 2996

Now he takes the remaining 998 to the mile mark, and then consumes 1 more loaf, leaving a total of 2995 loaves of bread.

For every 1 mile he moves foward he must make 2.5 round trips, 3 going out and 2 coming back to the previous mile. Each mile requires a consumption of 5 loaves of bread.

This process keeps going until he reaches 2000 loaves of bread. At this point he only needs to make 1.5 round trips, 2 going out and 1 coming back, the consumption rate now is 3 loaves per mile.

When he has 1001 loaves left, he will not need to make round trips back and forth anymore, he keeps going toward the city until he reaches it, consuming 1 loaf of bread per mile.

I don't think it's 668 loaves... I need to recheck


Uh, could you repeat that??:confused:

Maybe we could work on something simpler, like the square root of pi or something...:confused: