The Search for Weapons of Mass Destruction

[danee]

I just know that some people are going to love this one....

In the new year, "Rooting Out Evil" will be sending a team of volunteer weapons inspectors into that greatest of rogue nations, the United States of America.

Refer to:Rooting Out Evil (http://www.rootingoutevil.org/index.php3/About)

We have selected the US as our first priority based on criteria provided by the Bush administration. According to those criteria, the most dangerous states are those run by leaders who:
1) have massive stockpiles of chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons;
2) ignore due process at the United Nations;
3) refuse to sign and honour international treaties; and
4) have come to power through illegitimate means.

The current US administration fulfills all these criteria. And so, again following Bush’s guidelines, Rooting Out Evil is demanding that his administration allow immediate and unfettered access to international weapons inspectors to search out their caches of chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons.

If they refuse to comply, we will assemble as many volunteer weapons inspectors as possible at a major border crossing between the US and Canada and attempt to cross into the US on a mission of peace. We will be greeted on the US side by Americans who favour true global cooperation, an end to weapons of mass destruction, and a regime change in the US at the next election.

The following organizations have formally endorsed "Rooting Out Evil":

- Greenpeace Canada
- Centre for Social Justice
- Women's International League for Peace and Freedom - US Section
- Women's International League for Peace and Freedom - - - ---- - Canadian Section
- Global Exchange
- Libby Davies, MP
- National Network to End the War Against Iraq
- Canadian Union of Postal Workers
- Toronto Committee Against War and Sanctions on Iraq
- Ottawa Iraq Anti-War Action Committee
- Canadian Network to End Sactions on Iraq - Ottawa Chapter
- Ottawa Muslim Women's Organization
- OPIRG Carleton
- NOWAR/PAIX
- Phoenix Community Works Foundation
- Open Concept Consulting
- Tri-Valley Cares
- The Council of Peace
- Democrats.com
- Coalition Against War and Racism - Toronto
- Women's International League for Peace and Freedom - Toronto Section
- Women for Peace Switzerland
- Another Limited Rebellion Design
- Nuclear Disarmament Party of Australia

[Giblet Plus!]

I could waste valuable moments of my life detailing why the whole thing is stupid, but I think I'll just work on my AP Chemistry homework instead. I like to think I'll be able to make a contribution to society some time. :p

[Giblet Plus!]

Danee, you are the master of control - c, control - v.

http://www.rootingoutevil.org/index.php3/MissionUSA

[j.m@talk]

I have checked under stairs, no weapon's stockpile there

So I guess I'm OK then ! :p

[Bigjakkstaffa]

I know a five a side team called weapons of mass destruction - QUICK - RUN FOR COVER!!

:p

ITS A FARCE

--Jakk:t

[j.m@talk]

Ballot? ;)

[Optimus Prime]

Originally posted by j.m@talk21.com
Ballot? ;)

quite.

[Billforce]

Danee,

First place your hand in a bucket of water, remove hand and observe the state of the water after 1 minute.
This is precicely the effect you will have with you so called protests. NIL! NADA! NOTHING!

Use your intellect to do something constructive for the world, negative protest and negative attitudes only stir the pot but have little value. i.e. the Chicago Seven, Patricia Hearst, Louis Fahrakan etc.

If you see a nice quiet sesspool, leave it lie. It serves little purpose to get a stick and stir it up just to make a stink!

You and your group will have about as much effect on the agenda of the US Govt. as a F..rt in a whirlwind.

billforce
¨If you are being run out of town, get in front of the crowd and make like it´s a parade!

[bushmaster]

Well said BF.

[Cluedo]

Originally posted by j.m@talk21.com
I have checked under stairs, no weapon's stockpile there

So I guess I'm OK then ! :p

So sorry. Didn't mean to be so selfish...I've got scads and scads stored down in the basement. Give a ring if you want to borrow a few. Some things may take a while to ship....but, if you provide coordinates, I can get the nuke missles to you pretty durn quick!! :r :D

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Anyone trys to steal my donner kebab and garlic sauce and they shall truly witness the coming of a weapon of mass destruction :mad:

--Jakk:t

[Optimus Prime]

Originally posted by Bigjakkstaffa
Anyone trys to steal my donner kebab and garlic sauce and they shall truly witness the coming of a weapon of mass destruction :mad:

--Jakk:t

do you KNOW what the $hits made out of?

makes me sick to think about it.

[NJEnviroguy]

Greenpeace...'nuff said.

Speaking of weapons of mass destruction...seen a tat in a magazine of some guys **** with a radioactive insignia with an arrow pointing you know where.:p

Priceless.

[Cluedo]

Originally posted by Bigjakkstaffa
Anyone trys to steal my donner kebab and garlic sauce and they shall truly witness the coming of a weapon of mass destruction :mad:

--Jakk:t Are they considered WMD's before or after they are eaten? ;)

[Optimus Prime]

Originally posted by Cluedo
Are they considered WMD's before or after they are eaten? ;)

both cluedo!

lethal as a thrown weapon, garlic juice in the eyes spells disaster.

toxic as an edible, donner meat mixes with the gastric juices of your stomach to concoct quite a nasty self-defense mechanism.

:D

[Bigjakkstaffa]

do you KNOW what the $hits made out of?

Yes but im aiming for a heart attack at the age of 35 :p

--Jakk:t

[j.m@talk]

Know how you feel "Quite disapointed" 37 & all working reasonably well :(

Mind you Shish being my kebab of poison may have a bearing on this! :p

[Cluedo]

Just went Googling for donner kebab. Really wish I hadn't. :( So, is dropping it on the floor an added flavor enhancer or intended as an aid to oiling the floor? :D

Baring a striking resemblance to an elephant's leg on a skewer, the donner kebab is the drunkard's favourite alternative to a stomach pump....(edited for brevity) Lumps are carved from the roast...Then it gets dropped on the floor - but you it eat anyway. I mean, you have paid for it.

[j.m@talk]

http://www.warrington.gov.uk/services/guidance_advisory_16.htm

above government advisory document on the ins & outs of Donna Kebabs :rolleyes:

I have eaten a few in my time & I'm not dead yet :D

These days its strictly shish :t

[danee]

Originally posted by Giblet Plus!
Danee, you are the master of control - c, control - v.


???
Im just passing on the message...

Don't shoot the Messenger.

[Giblet Plus!]

Let us begin by considering the means employed to achieve socialism. We observe two phenomena that are not unrelated. First, wherever socialism has actually been enacted, as in the Communist-bloc countries and Nazi Germany, violent and bloody means have been used to achieve it and/or maintain it. And, second, where socialist parties have come to power but abstained from wholesale violence and bloodshed, as in Great Britain, Israel, and Sweden, they have not enacted socialism, but retained a so-called mixed economy, which they did not radically or fundamentally alter. Let us consider the reasons for these facts.

Even if a socialist government were democratically elected, its first act in office in implementing socialism would have to be an act of enormous violence, namely, the forcible expropriation of the means of production. The democratic election of a socialist government would not change the fact that the seizure of property against the will of its owners is an act of force. A forcible expropriation of property based on a democratic vote is about as peaceful as a lynching based on a democratic vote. It is a cardinal violation of individual rights. The only way that socialism could truly come into existence by peaceful means would be if property owners voluntarily donated their property to the socialist state. But consider. If socialism had to wait for property owners to voluntarily donate their property to the state, it would almost certainly have to wait forever. If socialism is ever to exist, therefore, it can only come about by means of force--force applied on a massive scale, against all private property.

Further, in the case of the socialization of the entire economic system, as opposed to that of an isolated industry, no form of compensation to the property owners is possible. In the case of an isolated nationalization, the government can largely compensate the former owners by taxing the rest of the property owners to some extent. If the government seizes all property, however, and simply abolishes private ownership, then there is just no possibility of compensation. The government simply steals everyone's property lock, stock, and barrel. In these circumstances, property owners will almost certainly resist and try to defend their rights by force if necessary, as they properly should.

This explains why it takes the Communists to achieve socialism, and why the Social Democrats always fail to achieve socialism. The Communists, in effect, know that they are out to steal all of men's property from them and that if they expect to succeed, they had better come armed and prepared to kill the property owners, who will attempt to defend their rights. The Social Democrats, on the other hand, are held back by fear from taking the steps that would be necessary to achieve socialism.

In sum, the essential facts are these. Socialism must commence with an enormous act of theft. Those who seriously want to steal must be prepared to kill those whom they plan to rob. In effect, the Social Democrats are mere con men and pickpockets, who engage in empty talk about pulling the "big job"--socialism--someday, and who flee before the first sign of resistance by their intended victims. The Communists, on the other hand, are serious about pulling the "big job." They are armed robbers prepared to commit murder. This is why the Communists are able to implement socialism. Of the two, only the Communists are willing to employ the bloody means that are necessary to implement socialism.

See also:
Al Gore's Faustian Deal With a Devil-Like Creature (http://www.rightgrrl.com/2000/debate.shtml)

A good read:
The Facts on Greenpeace (http://www.satirewire.com/news/june02/greenpeace.shtml)

[bushmaster]

George Reisman

[Giblet Plus!]

Originally posted by bushmaster
George Reisman

I know, I know. I was trying to mock a certain sysopt member's style of writing. :p

[danee]

Originally posted by Giblet Plus!
In sum, the essential facts are these. Socialism must commence with an enormous act of theft. Those who seriously want to steal must be prepared to kill those whom they plan to rob. In effect, the Social Democrats are mere con men and pickpockets, who engage in empty talk about pulling the "big job"--socialism--someday, and who flee before the first sign of resistance by their intended victims. The Communists, on the other hand, are serious about pulling the "big job." They are armed robbers prepared to commit murder. This is why the Communists are able to implement socialism. Of the two, only the Communists are willing to employ the bloody means that are necessary to implement socialism.


You forgot the key "essential" facts:
Socialism: A system of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government.
Capitalism: An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development

So the key essential point is, the difference between furthering the community/state and furthering oneself within the community/state.

I think you should have used Capitalism instead of Democracy, for what you were trying to get at.
By Defenition, a democracy is a describtion of a political structure.
Democracy: A government of the people.
Capitalism is more a desribtion of the economic system, which i think you were more referring to.

It should also be noted, that the larger proportion of Socialist regimes which exist today, either came about thru a (often violent) social revolution overthrowing a monarcy based political structure. Outside of this, they've most likely been the result of a foreign nation installing a Socialist leader, which reflects the interest of that foreign nation.

[Giblet Plus!]

ROFLMAO!

Did you really think I wrote all that?

[Giblet Plus!]

Danee, do yourself a favor and google George Reisman for me.

[bushmaster]

Gotta love it. The jabeeb thinks he's criticizing your writing. Totally clueless.

[ShawnD1]

great post about how socialism is criminal, i really liked it :)

[j.m@talk]

Whats this go to do with Kebabs? :confused: ;)

[Optimus Prime]

dunno, but im peckish :r

[j.m@talk]

Originally posted by Optimus Prime
dunno, but im peckish :r

Nice Kofta wiv chilli sauce?

Blagh :t

[Bigjakkstaffa]

bleh - Garlic sauce maybe :x

--Jakk:t

[Cluedo]

Chilli, garlic, Donna Kebabs,...if that Canadian group (looking for evil), starts sniffing around and gets a whiff of all these WMD's...next thing ya know they'll be sending an inspection group to the U.K.:t (BYOB??)

[danee]

Back to the US claims of WMD, and the production of the 12,000 (approx) page Iraqi Dossier...

THE United States edited out more than 8000 crucial pages of Iraq's 11,800-page dossier on weapons, before passing on a sanitised version to the 10 non- permanent members of the United Nations security council.

America tore out 8000 pages of Iraq dossier (http://www.sundayherald.com/30195)

[wallie_x]

"If a paper writes it, it must be true."
"Please check your brain at the door before entering." an automated female voice says.
As we passed through the threshold the sign greeted us a warm welcome:
Now Entering Ancephalo Island

[Cluedo]

I'm sure if this was a web site devoted to spouting pro-right wing rhetoric, you' would immediately point out that:

a. It's entirely biased and presents nothing in a balanced, objective way. The entire scope of the rag is "anti-establishment" and is written in such a propaganda method as not to inform, but to shape peoples opinions within the very first sentence.

Tear out pages...geeze. What an image to deliberately plant in people's minds. It's not till near the end that it mentions that all five permanent members got a copy of the full disclosure.

(And anybody is the news media that's been in the business more than a few minutues is well aware that they have to capture the readers full attention within the first few sentences since a paragraph, or two at most, is all people ever read of any article.)

b. It's also a capitalistic rag...whose only incentive is to, goodness forbid, make money. And apparently not very well either as it is "For Sale". (What better incentive to be a muckraker.)

c. And if this was spouting pro-Bush and anti-Hussein articles, I'm sure you'd note that it must be because it's a racist news organization. (Must be...look at the editorial page...looks like a sea of white there.)

Differing viewpoints can be discussed in a more balanced objective way. IMHO, if a poster spewed a fraction as much Pro-Bush/U.S. garbage, as you do anti-Bush/U.S....the mods would never allow it. (It would be inflammatory, flaming, and make us look like ugly Americans

[Logan[TeamX]]

Ok, do you REALLY know why they edited out certain parts of that document? Because the information within could have enabled countries that don't currently have nuclear capability to build nuclear WMD.

Before you post, read up. Heck, go to www.cnn.com and check there. It clearly states there that the UN removed that information. The US does not have that capability, or they are circumventing the "due process" of the UN.

I like to think of it this way, personally: If your dumb Uncle Bubba can't even light his cigarettes without causing second-degree burns to himself and others, does he really need to read all about the ins and outs of building napalm? Dirty bombs?

That's what I thought.

If a state is a member state, but not a nuclear-capable one, and they have shown civil unrest and worse in the past, do you hand them the key to their annihilation? Of course not. You then become a party to their destruction.

Yup, I just BBQed several million people today during a test bomb that malfunctioned. I can rest easy now. I wasn't THAT incompetent, after all. They were the ones that test-fired it.

/end sarcasm

Logan

[Bigjakkstaffa]

http://www.jr-c.com/images/Head%20up%20Ass.jpg

Well Mr President -- have you found em yet :p

--Jakk:t

[j.m@talk]

Jakk You are a Wag! ;)

[Bigjakkstaffa]

;)

--Jakk:t