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mondayz
04-12-2001, 05:01 PM
anybody ever connect at 57,600 on a 56k modem?

EastSt
04-12-2001, 05:03 PM
No fair.. you first

mondayz
04-12-2001, 05:10 PM
I see it but I don't believe it. Why am I seeing 57,6 on a 56 modem?

hallam2003
04-12-2001, 05:19 PM
I have a friend that continualy gets that result, the government has a limit of 53,300. So in theory it's not possible. I'd say it's just your modem returning some weird number to you, but i don't know why. I don't know much about it, but i don't see a whay it could be correct, besides, at that speed, it won't make any difference anyway.


Hallam

mondayz
04-12-2001, 05:37 PM
Government limits, oh no!
Sir, you were going 57,6 in a 53,3 zone. I'm going to have to write you up.
I'm just going to pretend that 57,6 connection is for real...speed on brothers!
Thanks for the feedbackz.

Buji
04-12-2001, 06:00 PM
Your modem is reporting Port speed, not Connect speed. Update the drivers or remove and reinstall the modem to get the correct reading.

Richard_Cranium72
04-12-2001, 06:08 PM
It's not a govt limit, it's the max safe voltage limit for the phone system.

More voltage would damage some components of the interchange..

DrVette

Buji
04-12-2001, 06:24 PM
Causes crosstalk Doc. We wouldn't want to listen in on our neighbours, now would we? http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

hallam2003
04-12-2001, 07:07 PM
I though it was the FCC's regulation, to prevent cross-talk with voice tranmissions, but like i said, i'd know about it really, just word, of mouth. If you say it's voltage, then it is, but i don't understand that, so to comfort my little mind, it's due to cross-talk in my head. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

Hallam

daverme
04-12-2001, 07:26 PM
I have a Zoltrix Smart Spirit 56K which consistantly reports the port speed rather the connect speed, no matter what I do to it. It seems to be the nature of the beast. It uses a Conexant SmartHCF chip.

The 53.3 limit is a "tarrifed" limit. I'm not sure what all a "tarrif" entails but I'm pretty sure it DOES specify rules. It may also be based on hardware capabilities or limitations, as suggested by Richard.

Dove19983
04-12-2001, 09:02 PM
i would test ur connection because i have a friend that his said he was connected at like 125,000. so i wouldnt belive windows.

captpete
04-12-2001, 10:56 PM
He probably has a ISDN connection. Bundled modems can get 97+

falcompsx
04-12-2001, 11:16 PM
the only modems i've ever seen that report port speed rather then connect speed, are those cheap, crappy, software driven, HSF, and HCF winmodems...I'll NEVER use a winmodem in my comp, they just suck. Heh, you get what you pay for...

mondayz
04-13-2001, 03:25 AM
This hot rod modem is a Best Data 56sf isa with a Conexant chip. I bought a hardware model so as not to tax the cpu in an older machine.

Sweeper
04-13-2001, 04:01 AM
I had a generic v90 PCI modem that always said I was connecting at 115,000 all the time. I tried new drivers, etc. Still the same thing. An easy way to check, (if your modem supports this) is after you get off line, go to the control panel, modem, then Diagnostics, click on the comm. port your modem is on, then click more info. It should show you what you connected at, along with your highest speed and your lowest speed plus all the other info on your modem.
Regards,
Sweeper

Hellmund
04-13-2001, 05:08 AM
Like the others said it just stating the port speed no the actual connect. Go to properties on the modem> connection> advanced, under extra settings just put in the switch in your manual for reporting connect speed. Otherwise post your modem brand and type.

daverme
04-13-2001, 05:23 AM
Since Mondayz and I are having the same experience, this phenomenon would seem to be a characteristic of the Conexant chip.

Wormo
04-13-2001, 10:33 AM
I have a Viking Components external 56k and it has always reported port speed instead of connect speed.

Buji
04-13-2001, 11:14 AM
If the signal is too strong, the normal twists do not effect the induction. In other words, a limit has to be placed on the power of the signal. This limit prevents cross talk and also the maximum speed you can connect. This limit was set many years ago by the Bell System with advice from Western Electric. The limit is one milliwatt of power and stands today. Any greater power will cause cross talk in adjacent cable pairs. Because of this limit, the maximum speed achievable with dial-up data is 53 Kb/s. A stronger signal is needed to get 56 K and that’s against the rules. Many publications state that this is an FCC regulation and that’s true. But the original guidelines were set by the Bell System years ago. The FCC just took on the regulation. The Bell Systems were the ones that transported the signal on cable pairs and they knew what would happen. To prevent tons of trouble reports from customers (cross talk, noise, etc.), the limit was set and is carved in stone. Power is explained in my section "What is power and how is it measured". Now that you know why 53 K is the maximum speed, let’s talk about why you’ll probably never achieve this speed.
http://www.wayne.hardy.com/speed.htm http://www.wayne.hardy.com/

Reddog
04-13-2001, 06:39 PM
Hey, isn't someone going to release a V92 modem for analog?

DCWATLFL
04-13-2001, 08:45 PM
I get connected @ 115000bps all the time on AOL or at least that's what the screen says. I think my downloads speak for themselves. I am actually connected @ 28.8-48.0. Go figure.

P.S. I have a Creative Modem Blaster.

jacobnero8196
04-13-2001, 10:04 PM
My dialup connects at 115,000 also but it's really 46,666 acording to the modem log.

Do a search for your modem log and you'll see what you really connected at.

Usually *.*log or *.*txt will bring up the file your looking for.

The Highlander
04-14-2001, 12:20 AM
I ussually connect at 52kbps and 53.2kbps. And its not port speed but connection speed.

Using Win2k and creative modem blaster hardware modem.