KyroII + Pentium III 866 (o'ced to 871) = Kick, uh, TNT2M64

[Beeblequix]

I found a home for my Hercules Prophet 4500. :)

My brother asked the other day for a newfangled 'pc hardware lesson'. What more opportune time to 1. help my family and 2. find a computer to use my Kyro II on.

First I benchmarked the TnT2m64 that was in there. The results were an astounding 913! w00t!!!! Results can be found here:
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5278243

I knew the Kyro could do better than that, so I gave him his 'lesson' he asked for (to me, elementary, to him, well, not...). We popped out the Vanta POS, dropped in the Prophet, configured the thing, ran 3dmark2k1se (not build 330, though). The results can be found here:
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5278709

Woohoo! 1669!!! That's a whopping 82.8% increase in video performance!

I'm mostly cheery to know that I didn't ESD that card a few months back....

Anyone care to debate whether or not 3dmark 2k1 should even be relevant when dealing with the Kyro's tile-based rendering scheme?

chau,
ßeeßle 'it's a relavite ting' Qµix

edit: yes, my "o'ced to 871" is mostly a pun; satire is fun

[Gen_Hideki_Tojo]

Why don't you get a very powerful system that is similar to yours for your brother? Look, when I got an Athlon XP 2400+ with an ATi Radeon 9700 Pro graphics card, I decided to get my brother the same CPU and a mobo that's better than mine (although he uses the inferior GeForce 4 Ti 4200, but what the heck?) Money is not an issue when it comes to love, you know.

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General Hideki Tojo,
Prime Minister, Japan
His Majesty's Imperial Japanese Army

[Logan[TeamX]]

Money is when you're not made of it...

[Beeblequix]

You know, if I did have the money I'd give him my hand me down 2200+ & Geforce 4ti4600 and get myself a new *whatever's-better-at-the-time* :D . But as Mr. Wolverine *sic* has pointed out, I'm a tad shy of being made of money.

And that pc does fine for him and my family. He's far too busy in college for gaming. And actually that card doesn't do too bad. I got twice the fps in Q3 with that than my Geforce256 back in the day. I've been the computer-geek-in-charge of computers for my family since 1984. They've purchased every single one I recommended. Some were mistakes, others not. I'm more interested in them getting the right product for them. It wouldn't be the right product for you or I, but hey, we're all individuals. :)

NEWSFLASH....
My Kyro has officially *STOMPED* the LOWEST 3Dmark score on Madonion, coincidentally happens to be a KyroII in a CompaQ!!! That's right, you heard it here first.
You've GOT to compare your score to this poor schlumb:
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4519737

ß.Q.

[omega31]

Wow! 27 3dmarks! :D

[Giblet Plus!]

Originally posted by omega31
Wow! 27 3dmarks! :D

Back when I still had my Rage Pro and k6/2 in my 2nd computer, I think I could have got less. :p

(only if I used the official Ati drivers) :p

I got a whopping 10 fps in Q3 at 320 x 240 with everything set to the minumums on that beastly computer. :D

[Grentarc]

thats.. um... pathetic... to say the least.. 0.1FPS average in most tests:(

[causticVapor]

Originally posted by Giblet Plus!


Back when I still had my Rage Pro and k6/2 in my 2nd computer, I think I could have got less. :p

(only if I used the official Ati drivers) :p

I got a whopping 10 fps in Q3 at 320 x 240 with everything set to the minumums on that beastly computer. :D

Dude, you're kidding, neither the K6-2 550 nor Rage Pro were that slow... maybe 200 but not 20

Unless you had it unoptimized :p

[causticVapor]

Originally posted by Gen_Hideki_Tojo
Why don't you get a very powerful system that is similar to yours for your brother? Look, when I got an Athlon XP 2400+ with an ATi Radeon 9700 Pro graphics card, I decided to get my brother the same CPU and a mobo that's better than mine (although he uses the inferior GeForce 4 Ti 4200, but what the heck?) Money is not an issue when it comes to love, you know.

=============================
General Hideki Tojo,
Prime Minister, Japan
His Majesty's Imperial Japanese Army

Dude, did you not even realize this entire thread was encapsulated as a joke about you? :p


ED - Not made of money either, I'm just a penny-pincher, otherwise I would've gotten the 2800+ they had available as a discrete item...

[Beeblequix]

well CV, it's presented in a satiristic fashion, so you're on to that, and that's good. But everything inside is 100% real. I guess the best form of humor contains those tounge-in-cheek bits o' truth.

I'm actually thinking about sabotaging my settings to see exactly how bad bad can be. I know that if I set my AGP aperature way too low (like OFF :D ) my score will fall in a big way. Yeah, I've a new project on my hands.

ß.Q.


as far as hard feelings, I can't afford to hold on to any more, so peace out, p33ps. :)

[Giblet Plus!]

Originally posted by causticVapor


Dude, you're kidding, neither the K6-2 550 nor Rage Pro were that slow... maybe 200 but not 20

Unless you had it unoptimized :p

Ati's drivers for that card unoptimized whatever small amount of performance it had. We're talking about voodoo banshee level performance, mind you. That, coupled with a crappy Ali chipset, could get under 200 marks, easily. :p

[Giblet Plus!]

Originally posted by causticVapor


Dude, you're kidding, neither the K6-2 550 nor Rage Pro were that slow... maybe 200 but not 20


Ah, maybe you're right.

http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5267564

It seemed even slower than that, though. :r

[Beeblequix]

Hey Giblet,

Drop your fsb down to 66Mhz if you can. You'll get 1/3 less performance maybe....

I tried to untweak everything but my XP partition would not even boot up. :shocked: I didn't want to have a recitivistic-end-of-November-experience that I did have which launched me into this triple OS rig.

I'll have to visit the folks in a couple o' days and sabotage *their* comp.

bEEbLe MUHAHAHAHAHA qUiX

[causticVapor]

I'd say just put a GF2 MX in there and watch 3dmark performance triple. I had a celeron 400, and put an MX400/64MB in there, and the score went from 200-ish to 600-ish.

Wonder what score you would get with a mach64/32 pci :p

[causticVapor]

Heh, LOL, if I hadn't pushed him he would have let his bro get the crappy compaq PII-350. :rolleyes:

[Giblet Plus!]

I don't have that motherboard/cpu anymore, but if I did, I could:

Run it as a 266 k6/2 :p

Declock the graphics card to roughly half speed

Remove ram to make it have 64mb

Turn on "Active Desktop"

And then it would have been really slow! :D

[causticVapor]

Why do that? Just set the hardware video acceleration to zero, and force software in everything. :p

[Beeblequix]

good idea! I was thinking the same thing last night regarding hardware acceleration. We've been trying to fix the rendering issues (another thread) on this kyro; one suggestion was to lower the amount of hardward acceleration. Then it occurred to me that would be a GREAT UN-TWEAK!!! :D

[causticVapor]

Then, go and disable all the file-locking semantics and all that "dangerous" stuff.

[causticVapor]

Guess I failed to mention that you could enable the memory hole for the ISA bus and set the pallette snoop on.... be prepared to run sloooowly. :D

[ALS]

On my backup PC I got 800 score on 3Dmark2001SE

AMD k6-2 300 MHz @ 350 MHz OC-ed
128MB PC100 RAM
ASUS P5A-B
GeForce 256 32MB
10GB WD Hard Drive
Win2k pro

And I used default settings!:D

[causticVapor]

You can get your K6-2 to about 500 or so... if you have a good HSF... just a pointer. :t

[OpK Chowdy]

my 3dmark score is 350 times greater than:

http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=%2Forb%2Fprojectcompare&projectId=4519737&projectType=6&2k1=4519737

ROFL. I'm going to install 3dmark on my 100mhz P1 and see what happens...

[Gen_Hideki_Tojo]

****! 27 is your 3D Mark 2001 SE score?? That most be the... worst... benchmark... score... in... history... sorry to say, but... that's life.

[causticVapor]

Dude were trying to make it lower

:t :t :t :t :t

[Beeblequix]

So I was running an experiment yesterday...

I didn't realize how much the Nvidia Texture Sharpening could lower one's score.

I enabled it on my "Rig" and took a ~10% performance hit. I realize the Kyro I'm sabotaging won't have this setting, but I'll come up with something...

Actually Tojo, that link is someone else's score. My Kyro's score is listed in that same post.

Hey OpK Chowdy, I'm excited to see YOUR scorez .... :D

ß.Q.

[Beeblequix]

MY KyroII has become homeless once more. :(

My brother liked having a faster card, so yesterday he and I went up to Totally Awesome and had an Asus Geforce 4 ti 4200 installed. Now his untweaked scores are up to 6200. :rolleyes: Oh yeah, we had a new power supply installed too. I'll have to think of somewhere else to put this 'different' kind of card. Maybe ebay...?

[causticVapor]

Heck, I'll take it, I've got to find a replacement for that POS Viper II Z200 in the other system :t

[Giblet Plus!]

This is probably good for a loss of a few thousand 3d marks.

[causticVapor]

Due to tojism, the other thread got closed, :( , sorry B. Quix.

BTW Calvin,

That's me!

I have a really good teacher for Cisco. He knows what he's talking about, and is funny. We get to play cstrike after tests, too.


Would the Teacher's last name happen to be Smith? :D

[Giblet Plus!]

No. Ames. I live in MN, remember?

[causticVapor]

I know, I know, but he moved from our school to the MN area last year, so I was wondering if the teacher just MIGHT have been him....

[Giblet Plus!]

Oh, I see. Nah, Mr. Ames has been there a while.

CV - Did you get your Nforce 2 yet? What processor did you end up getting.

[Gen_Hideki_Tojo]

Hehehe... The mods did give that thread the deep six. I knew it. I just knew it.

[Gen_Hideki_Tojo]

Oh well... let's see if they give another thread the deep six... BOOM! BAM!

[Sterling_Aug]

Your wish is my command!