Anyone here use motor honey??

[S.D.Willie]

hey,
i have a crappy/ok merc cougar(87) 3.8 liter.
i have about 102k on the motor now so once in a while i use motor honey or stp smokestop. anyone here ever actually notice a difference in either of these products in their car?? its not like im gonna rip apart my block to test for friction results in the cylinders.....i dont use marvel mystery oil although i have heard a few good things about it. i just wanna get at least 50k more miles out of this car if the rear and tranny hold up. (ha...pulllllllezeeeee)
thanx.

SD

[flash4master]

never heard of motor honey, although i do use a oil additive called restore...

[DougR]

All that stuff is really good for is Thickening the oil up so it doesn't seep past the Valve Guides and/or the Rings on the piston! You'll be lucky if you can get another 50k out of that motor !! lol

[nunyadam]

it's like putting a bandaid on an anuerism.
you might put it off for a little while ,but it still gonna blow.

[Richard_Cranium72]

Wrong forun, belongs in "Community"

I've been wrenching for 30+ yrs.

The ONLY product that I've ever seen have any real effect on a worn engine is Restore.

It's full of Copper, silver and lead.

Under combustion temperatures these fuse to the voids in the ring lands and cylinder walls increasing compression..

My first experience was with a very worn 79 Cutlass Cruiser SW.
I put a can in it and drove away.
About 5-6 miles later the car started slightly accelerating while on a long level straight highway.

Oil consupmtion almost stopped, smoking did stop and the catalytic converter started working again.

STP and motor honey only increase oil viscosity. This can help a little with worn bearings but can be harder for the oil rings to scrape off the cylinder walls. This can increase oil consumption under some circumstances..

DrVette

[Kuasimodem]

Richard is absolutely right!! I've used Engine Restore on a few older engines to bring them back to life for a little while. The latest is a 89 Olds Cutlass Supreme with 210k on it's 3.1 V6.

[S.D.Willie]

hmm, ive heard of restore. good to know. how much is it??? american dollars that is. im guessing like anywhere from 15-30 bux a quart....thanx

SD

i will drive this car into the ground. someday when i break(umm, i mean fix) enough computers i will have enough money for my 1st new car. hmm, considering im 30 now..i think i'll be dead before that happens. bummer.

[Cygnus-X1]

A little dab will do ya.
Just apply sparingly to your fans and other components, it has really boosted the longevity and performance of my 486!
J/K http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

[Ed_S]

I'd recommend one of the teflon-based additives. The one I use is PTFE, similar in composition to Slick 50.

I put it in my truck some years ago, it's supposed to be good fo 50K miles, but I did it again after 20. Noticed performance & mileage increase quickly, but the real savings didn't show up till years later.

Blew the rear main seal. Totally. Ran it dry, didn't know it until the gauge dropped to 0. No warning, no noises, nothing. Ran great, still does. Seal's still blown, for that matter! Haven't had time to fix it. I know to add 5 qts whenever it stops leaking! (6 qt pan)
No engine noises or problems. This is an '87 F150 with a 351 Winsor, carbureted. Should have blown by now.

I would never have believed it, no matter WHAT the commercials say! But it really does work.

[SoopaStar]

Anyone tried that Motor-Up! stuff? Sounds a little like the restore stuff above.

Paul

[charmler]

It depends on what the problem is. If it smokes bunches on startup after sitting for several hours then the valve guides and or seals are the problem. If it smokes after decceleration, like after going down a long hill, then it is also the guides and seals. If it smokes on acceleration or just at a continuous speed then the rings are probably worn. For the valve seals I would try Marvel or some other fluid to loosen the seals. For the rings I would try Restore every 5-10 thousand miles. After the Restore put in a fluid like DuraLube to help prevent the cold start damage to the restored surfaces on the cylinder walls. Using a thickener like motor honey would cause the oil to flow slower on cold start and is a last ditch effort some unscrupulous operators use to sell a hi-milage vehicle. I also would stay away from PTFE and synthetic oils as the PTFE is usually in the form of solids and will be collected in the filter and synthetics because they are too slick and will tend to leak past clearances that a petrol-based oil wouldn't. Most important is to keep the air\fuel ratio set properly. Avoid washing the walls of the cylinders by making sure no gas is leaking into the intake.Also try to make the engine run slightly lean.

[Sweeper]

Try ProLong. We brought an 80's Lincoln ( I believe ) in to get it running. It had been sitting for about 2 years. It didn't run and the guy who just bought it expected a miracle. So.......We changed the oil in it,etc. and got it started but the engine tapped like crazy, and at idle the oil pressure light came on. We tried letting it run for a good half day. Then changed the oil again to get all the residue out and started it up the next day. Ran it some more and it still tapped....So, I got some ProLong and put it in the oil. We drove it for about 20/25 minutes and that's all it took. Quiet as can be. He was very please and I was really impressed. I used it on my 90 Firebird which had 115,000 miles. After about 10 minutes, the 3.1 V6 was quieter then it had been when I first bought the car with 64k on the engine.
Just me 2 cents worth.
Sweeper

[Thud]

Ed_S-- I realize that this might not be the best place for this, but you wouldn't happen to frequent another website dedicated to Dodge Rams, would you? Fritz's site? Sorry if I'm mistaken. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

[samwichse]

Try that with a Studebaker. My uncle had one that he took a 35 minute drive at regular highway speeds, and used 5 gallons of oil. Not quarts mind you, gallons. Stopped about 7 or 8 times on the way to fill 'er up. He also seemed to be followed everywhere by a giant blue cloud....