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otheos
04-01-2001, 01:07 AM
From the register: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/18002.html

With Microsoft's HailStorm .NET initiative hinging on the company's very own PassPort service, you'd think Redmond would be bending over backwards to stress the confidentially of user information.
Well, if that's the case, it hasn't started yet.
The current Passport Terms of Use agreement not only fails to guarantee confidentially, but actually gives Microsoft and its business partners the right to own your information, and do pretty much what they want with it. That encompasses all your Hotmail and MSN Messenger communications today.
As the Terms state:

"By posting messages, uploading files, inputting data, submitting any feedback or suggestions, or engaging in any other form of communication
with or through the Passport Web Site ... you are granting Microsoft and its affiliated companies permission to:

1. Use, modify, copy, distribute, transmit, publicly display, publicly perform, reproduce, publish, sublicense, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any such communication.

2. Sublicense to third parties the unrestricted right to exercise any of the foregoing rights granted with respect to the communication.

3. Publish your name in connection with any such communication."

And it doesn't stop there. Are you emailing a contact about a hot idea or business plan of your own? Hand that over, too:

The foregoing grants shall include the right to exploit any proprietary rights in such communication, including but not limited to rights under copyright, trademark, service mark or patent laws under any relevant jurisdiction. No compensation will be paid with respect to Microsoft's use of the materials contained within such communication.

After the eFront debacle, we're baffled why anyone would want to trust confidential communications to any of the big IM services, let alone MSN Messenger.
Apple originally launched its iDisk service with a similar landgrab, but was quickly forced to retreat.

Good luck.


[This message has been edited by otheos (edited 04-01-2001).]

club_med
04-01-2001, 06:02 AM
Thats pathetic, very low level, but then you can't expect much from anything that is in some way conected to microflop, can you ?.

cm.

GroundZero3
04-01-2001, 07:51 AM
lol thats very funny. What will microsoft think up next??

Jason

S.D.Willie
04-01-2001, 10:10 AM
im thinking microsoft will ask for everyones first born child......im staying single.....
screw microshaft...

SD

mudoggy
04-01-2001, 05:37 PM
Happy April Fools (I hope, anyway).

hahahaha http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

DemonKnight
04-01-2001, 07:15 PM
Does that mean M$ takes the time to read my e-mails and MSN conversations? When they should be making non-bugy and crash resitant software?

Wilan Wong
04-02-2001, 12:00 AM
No wonder those service packs and patches are always late! What else do you expect from MS?

jadison
04-02-2001, 06:02 PM
This doesn't make me want to continue using Hotmail and MSN IM...Privacy, as the world's population grows ever so quickly, is becoming a continuing issue. I hope people realize the more electronics they use (ie. Palm Pilots, computers, phones, etc.) are @ greater risk of threatening their privacy. These days, that's something we sometimes take for granted. We have to realize also, there is no such think as true privacy unless u were locked up in a bomb shelter 50 miles below the surface...but then again who would want to live that kind of liFE!!

just my thoughts...

-=jd=-

Jim9999
04-02-2001, 09:44 PM
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Jim9999
04-02-2001, 10:15 PM
I had to go read the story at the URL you included in the original post. You left out this reputable news organization's headline...

"All your data (and biz plans) are belong to Microsoft"

I guess they're experimenting with (or maybe rebelling against) grammar along with quoting this guy's somewhat paranoid interpretation of a lot of legal gibberish.

I don't imagine anyone with bilion-dollar ideas will use chat toys to send send their earth-shattering plans across the Internet <grin> And I doubt Microsoft has an army of folks reading every message sent looking for ideas <grin>

Warthog
04-03-2001, 05:40 AM
Happy April Fools (I hope, anyway).

Steve R Jones
04-03-2001, 05:49 AM
And then there's Juno:

"Anyone read their service agreement recently?

Section 2.5
"You expressly permit and authorize Juno to (i) download to your computer one or more pieces of software (the "Computational Software") designed to perform computations.....Juno may require that you leave your computer on at all times, and may replace the screen saver software that runs on your computer...... you agree not to take any action to disable or interfere with the operation of either the screen saver software or any other component of the Computational Software..."

Let me see if I understand this. Juno wants to use the end users systems to do computations. That must mean that their existing systems do not do computations. Yeah RIGHT!"

drdeath
04-03-2001, 07:05 AM
i believe that i read somewhere (i forget exactly where tho) that Juno was planning on selling some disctibuted computing power to research agencies and the like through their "free" email and internet software systems, to counter the operation costs.

jad1097
04-04-2001, 10:57 AM
This is NOT an April fools joke. http://www.passport.com/Consumer/TermsOfUse.asp

Read it!!

jwells25
04-04-2001, 08:08 PM
And here's a link to Juno's service agreement http://help.juno.com/privacy/agreement.html