Government plays down Tube gas attack report

[j.m@talk]

By Mike Peacock LONDON (Reuters) - The government has played down reports of a planned poison gas attack on the London's Underground after three men were arrested under terror legislation. Scotland Yard said the men had been charged under the Terrorism Act with "possession of articles for the preparation, instigation and commission of terrorism acts". It named them as Rabah Chekat-Bais, 21, Karim Kadouri, 33, and Rabah Kadris, in his mid-30s. All were unemployed and living in Britain. They are believed to come from north Africa and will appear in Bow Street magistrates' court on Monday. The Sunday Times newspaper said the three had planned to launch a cyanide attack on the underground system, known as The Tube. The system is the world's oldest and carries more than three million passengers around London every day. But Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott said there was no evidence that bombs or poison gas were involved. "It's excited the press. I'll leave them to sell their newspapers," he told BBC Television on Sunday. "It doesn't appear that there's any evidence whatsoever there was going to be a gas attack or indeed use of bombs regarding the three people who've been arrested." The paper said the men were members of a group allegedly linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network and had planned to import chemicals into Britain to make a gas bomb. Police sources said the men had not been charged with plotting a specific attack and no noxious substance had been found during the course of the inquiry. "The plan I believe was to bring the ingredients of a gas bomb into the country. As far as I know, as far as I understand, the materials never arrived," Sunday Times assistant editor Nicholas Rufford told Sky Television. The paper said six men were arrested by Scotland Yard's anti-terrorist branch but only three were charged. They were snatched in raids on addresses in North London on November 9. BRITAIN ON ALERT Britain is on a heightened state of alert after Prime Minister Tony Blair warned last week that he was bombarded almost daily with intelligence about threats to UK interests. Days later, ports were put on red alert after intelligence warnings about a bomb on a ferry. Officials say Britain could be a target because of its strong support for U.S. action against al Qaeda. Last week an audio tape believed to be bin Laden, praising recent terror attacks, was broadcast on the Arabic-language television channel al-Jazeera. It hailed the Bali bombings and the Chechen hostage-taking in a Moscow theatre, among others, and warned U.S. allies against siding with the Washington, specifically mentioning Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Australia. The latest allegations will reheat a debate about what warnings government should pass on as it seeks to balance the public's right to know with the need to avoiding panic. The London Underground has never been subjected to a major terror attack. However, the alleged plot will to rekindle memories of an assault seven years ago on the Tokyo metro. Then, 12 people died and around 5,000 were injured when a Japanese religious cult released a nerve agent, sarin, on the underground during rush hour.
:rolleyes: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[danee]

Originally posted by j.m@talk21.com
But Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott said there was no evidence that bombs or poison gas were involved. "It's excited the press. I'll leave them to sell their newspapers," he told BBC Television on Sunday. "It doesn't appear that there's any evidence whatsoever there was going to be a gas attack or indeed use of bombs regarding the three people who've been arrested." The paper said the men were members of a group allegedly linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network

Sounds like another example of the Major media networks manufacturing stories to manipulate the general public.
Also.. i highlight the point THESE MEN, HAVE NOT ACTUALLY COMMITED A CRIME
2 Years ago... i was always having thoughts about what it would be like to rob a bank, and get lots of money. I never did it though.. i couldnt go thru with it - Hence this story: These men have not actually done anything at all. The have no bombs, they dont even have the chemicals to make the bombs... yet apparently the government decided, that they were, beyond any doubt, going to make, and then detenate a bomb - FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE.

The way i see it... if you support the arrest of these men, then you must defenitenly believe THAT I SHOULD BE ARRESTED FOR HAVING THOUGHTS ABOUT ROBBING A BANK 2 YEARS AGO even though ive never actually done it - and hence, i have never actually [YET] broken the law.

Welcome to the Police State - Thought crime.

[bushmaster]

The aspect of "Innocent untill proven guilty" concerning acts or planned acts of terrorism just isnt going to cut it in todays political and social climate. Had a group of terrorists been arrested for "planning" to hijack commercial airliners and flying them into heavily populated buildings, but had not yet actually boarded the aircraft been arrested you can count on the fact that some person would come foward and cry about the civil rights of those that were planning that act.
So do we wait untill thousands of people are killed before any action is permitted under the guise of protecting the suspects "civil rights"
Responsible and mentally sound civilians/citizens, do not plot out acts of terrorism against other civilians/citizens. Nor do responsible and mentally sound members of our society plot out to rob banks where the possibilty or actual likelieness of injuries or fatalities to innocent persons might occur.
I was born and raised in NYC. I myself am EMS and had friends in ESU and EMS that never made it out of the WTC. I know kids that will never see their parents again just because their parents were working jobs to feed their kids and keep them housed untill some dipsh*t with a boxcutter and a "plan" destroyed their world.

When you go screaming civil rights for a group of people connected to a terrorist organization first think about the civil rights of the innocent people who have a right to go to work and support and care for their families without the fear of being blown up or poisened. And the rights of the family members to be able to see their family members come home at night. The right of that child who wants nothing more than to cuddle up with her daddy before it's time for bed so that she can go to sleep feeling safe and loved.

When it comes to terrorism monsters have no rights to "civil rights". And any fool that argues for the "civil rights" of monsters needs a wake-up slap in the face. No actually a well placed punch in the face is more in order.

[ukulele]

JM has a valid concern here. If people can be arrested and detained with no real proof of any wrong doing then we have lost all that we we have gained since the Magna Carta was signed. If this becomes the norm then the terrorist have won this war.

[j.m@talk]

I believe its important we all know where we are at with this :t

[Strawbs]

Push them out of a military airplane with parachutes over north africa and jet blast them til they glide over the middle of the sahara.

no human rights for these scum, they were planning mass murder, and it's plain from the report, the police couldn't be sure they didn't already have the ingrediants imported and stashed somewhere, the papers said they had a laboratory in one of thier flats (appartments), but no traces of chemicals were found, that doesn't mean that there aren't any.

[bushmaster]

When it comes to terrorism, I'm all for martial law being imposed untill such time as those demented sons of biatches are too terrified to even come into the USA. I think the USA should impose the same penalties on terrorists as Thailand imposes on drug smugglers. And televise the execution being carried out on national TV. And then impale their festering corpses on 20 foot tall sharpened poles at all the major ports of entry to the USA.

[ukulele]

Originally posted by bushmaster
When it comes to terrorism, I'm all for martial law being imposed untill such time as those demented sons of biatches are too terrified to even come into the USA. I think the USA should impose the same penalties on terrorists as Thailand imposes on drug smugglers. And televise the execution being carried out on national TV. And then impale their festering corpses on 20 foot tall sharpened poles at all the major ports of entry to the USA.

One step forward, two steps back. I like the Russian approach. Give them a job in Siberia sorting drums of toxic waste. Pay them 25 cents a day and then charge them 50 cents a day for toilet paper and soap.

[user0209]

Originally posted by danee


Sounds like another example of the Major media networks manufacturing stories to manipulate the general public.
Also.. i highlight the point THESE MEN, HAVE NOT ACTUALLY COMMITED A CRIME
2 Years ago... i was always having thoughts about what it would be like to rob a bank, and get lots of money. I never did it though.. i couldnt go thru with it - Hence this story: These men have not actually done anything at all. The have no bombs, they dont even have the chemicals to make the bombs... yet apparently the government decided, that they were, beyond any doubt, going to make, and then detenate a bomb - FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE.

The way i see it... if you support the arrest of these men, then you must defenitenly believe THAT I SHOULD BE ARRESTED FOR HAVING THOUGHTS ABOUT ROBBING A BANK 2 YEARS AGO even though ive never actually done it - and hence, i have never actually [YET] broken the law.

Welcome to the Police State - Thought crime.

danee, no offense, but you're stupid for admitting to having such thoughts. YOU HAVE ADMITTED YOURSELF. thats enough to prosecute you.

The reason that "having thoughts" is "ok" because it's impossible to prove in court, but if you have confessed it, you're guilty. (hence, "attempted murder")

And it makes sense. People ought to prevent you ahead, not to have you caused them damage than arrest you. And you also side with them on agreeing such action may take place.

Don't be stupid , dude

[j.m@talk]

Originally posted by user0209


Don't be stupid , dude

Yeah going around having thoughts willy nilly
without any consideration for ................ Well whoever ;)

[ukulele]

The way i see it... if you support the arrest of these men, then you must defenitenly believe THAT I SHOULD BE ARRESTED FOR HAVING THOUGHTS ABOUT ROBBING A BANK 2 YEARS AGO even though ive never actually done it - and hence, i have never actually [YET] broken the law.

Hollywood does it all the time. ;)